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Old 09 January 2007, 10:59 AM
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Question APS Air Intake? Tuning Advice

Im looking for an APS air intake system, does anyone know where I can get one for my MY99 classic, looked on the G-Force website and they only have them for the new age impreza!

Anyone any ideas?


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Old 09 January 2007, 11:02 AM
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think wrc tech do them. Not sure but i think i remember a thread a while back saying they were stopping making them for the classics!
Old 09 January 2007, 11:07 AM
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I have a brand new / unused or fitted one for sale.
Bought to fit a 97 Classic - gets air from under the wheel arch, BUT couldn't fit it as the pipework for the FMIC got in the way.

PM me with an offer.
Old 09 January 2007, 11:12 AM
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Old 09 January 2007, 11:29 AM
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Whats the g-force website adress?

Cant find it!
Old 09 January 2007, 11:41 AM
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I got mine from DSA, had a good chat prior to purchase on planned mods and filter arrived next day, excellent service:

APS UK Dealers
Old 09 January 2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Whats the g-force website adress?

Cant find it!
Seems to have changed, this is the same address in Aylesbury

DS Automotives hth

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Old 09 January 2007, 08:51 PM
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If fitting an APS CAK be aware that you should have your MAF Sensor rescaled, or better still a remap, before driving the car hard. If this is not done you run the risk of engine damage as a result of weak AFRs.
Old 12 January 2007, 09:51 AM
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Ya, im booked in for a remap with Andy Forrest in Feb just trying to locate one before!

Looks like the APS is out as DS Auto dont expect any stock until end of Feb...

Soo looking for a K&N Typhoon now if anyone knows where I can find one! Similar problem again, having difficulties tracking down a supplier for the classic model! Can find lots of places selling them for the newage!
Old 12 January 2007, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by terence
Ya, im booked in for a remap with Andy Forrest in Feb just trying to locate one before!

Looks like the APS is out as DS Auto dont expect any stock until end of Feb...

Soo looking for a K&N Typhoon now if anyone knows where I can find one! Similar problem again, having difficulties tracking down a supplier for the classic model! Can find lots of places selling them for the newage!
Shame about the APS, good bit of kit.

A lot of people should stock them. try revolution for one. I've also seen them on eBay. You should have no problem getting one...
Old 12 January 2007, 03:13 PM
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mmmm aps cak

Old 16 January 2007, 12:59 PM
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still having no luck

i mite run out of time before my remap!

i do have a simota panel filter from Scooby World, would i be better sticking with OEM airbox and using the simota as opposed to an APS or Typhoon does anyone think?
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I know from actual results achieved that the O/E air box with Subaru panel filter and the snorkle in place is good for over 350 bhp before it becomes a constraint, possibly a good bit more than the 350 figure I have experience of. This is on Classic cars. I think it is even more on New Age cars.

Hyperflow do a system similar to the APS CAK, I believe and I understand their UK distributors are AET Turbos, Normanton, West Yorks. They may stock these if you are sure you want one. Speak to Andy or Grant.
sales@aet-turbos.co.uk
Old 17 January 2007, 11:55 AM
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il have a look into that, cheers m8!

wel... im aiming for anything 320-330bhp, Andy F recommended to get a K&N Typhoon or APS or STi 7/8 TMIC Air Intake to stand a better chance of achieving this.

Im just wondering if i should forget the APS / K&N idea and leave the OEM box with my Simota Panel Filter as im not aiming for anything over 320-330!

Does that sound ok?
Old 17 January 2007, 12:28 PM
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I went from the same setup you have now, to the one you've been recommended and it did the trick. (albeit on a newage)

Recommended by the same person too.
Old 17 January 2007, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by terence
il have a look into that, cheers m8!

wel... im aiming for anything 320-330bhp, Andy F recommended to get a K&N Typhoon or APS or STi 7/8 TMIC Air Intake to stand a better chance of achieving this.

Im just wondering if i should forget the APS / K&N idea and leave the OEM box with my Simota Panel Filter as im not aiming for anything over 320-330!

Does that sound ok?
Didn't know you could get a K&N Typhoon for classics.
Old 17 January 2007, 01:33 PM
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Cheers for the info everyone!

EddScott - really? maybe thats where ive been going wrong then trying to get hold of one if they dont exist
Old 17 January 2007, 06:14 PM
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I was told to get the massive Roger Clark Motoraport one when I was gettin my remap done but found a second hand APS, but will be upgrading to the RCM one when I get my next lot of mods, just another suggestion.
Old 18 January 2007, 09:40 AM
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Just had a look at the Roger Clarl one!

Never seen this before, as anyone tried it / can recommend it?
Old 18 January 2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiss
I was told to get the massive Roger Clark Motoraport one when I was gettin my remap done but found a second hand APS, but will be upgrading to the RCM one when I get my next lot of mods, just another suggestion.
Out of interest, you were told the RCMS was an upgrade on the APS one?
Old 18 January 2007, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by terence
Just had a look at the Roger Clarl one!

Never seen this before, as anyone tried it / can recommend it?
The 80mm RCMS one is highly regarded. I would also fit a cold air feed though, as this induction kit sits in the engine bay, sourcing hot air from there.

Whereas the other two kits are in the inner wing.
Old 18 January 2007, 02:09 PM
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Ya thought as much... where could i find a cold air feed to pair up to the RCMS one?
Old 18 January 2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by terence
Ya thought as much... where could i find a cold air feed to pair up to the RCMS one?
There's lots to choose from. Do a search, i asked the same thing a couple of weeks ago.

1) Pipercross
2) Chargespeed
3) Subaru Fog Duct
etc

You can buy the ducting. #1's ducting does not reach to the engine bay though. But was perfect for CAK's.
Old 18 January 2007, 04:37 PM
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Try B&Q! boiler flexi pipe is about £7 IIRC. Just need to secure it to the wedge on the front bumper.

Shown on my car with a RCM induction kit as well, it sits nicely in the hole left after air box removal.












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I was told that after 400 BHP the APS kit becomes very restrictive and power above this is harder to achieve, only what I had been advised tho so please don't slate me!!

Chris
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APS recommend it for use with their 550bhp turbo. I doubt they would want to strangle their own turbo ?

Here is a link to a new age car running 11.5 sec at 122mph on an APS cold air kit, to do that time on a new age that requires at least 500bhp in my opinion.

500+bhp on APS Cold Air Kit



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Old 19 January 2007, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiss
I was told that after 400 BHP the APS kit becomes very restrictive and power above this is harder to achieve, only what I had been advised tho so please don't slate me!!

Chris
Tosh. Some people will bad mouth anything.
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Originally Posted by dogpole
mmmm aps cak


the blue bit of samco in this pic, from the aps cad to the inlet pipe,
whos knows where to buy it from and how much please.
(size of it would be nice to)

thanks
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Doesn't the APS CAIK go into the Maf then you could use the Std turbo intake??

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Old 13 August 2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Junkie
Doesn't the APS CAIK go into the Maf then you could use the Std turbo intake??

in the pic, (from left) is the aps in red, then the maf in black. it is the blue bit after that, that im looking for


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