looking to buy wrx estate
07 January 2007, 12:39 AM
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looking to buy wrx estate
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I'm looking to buy a wrx estate and id like to know a bit of backgroung info, 0-60 etc. could someone out there please help me out. cheers
I'm looking to buy a wrx estate and id like to know a bit of backgroung info, 0-60 etc. could someone out there please help me out. cheers
07 January 2007, 08:25 AM
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so am i have one to 
only downsides are slightly less power than saloon
and no rear bulkhead aparantly the boot is bigger but i not to sure about that
on the plus side they do look better
only downsides are slightly less power than saloon and no rear bulkhead aparantly the boot is bigger but i not to sure about thaton the plus side they do look better
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07 January 2007, 11:59 AM
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07 January 2007, 12:36 PM
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the classics had less power if i remeber correctly!! although the new newage are the same. some people say the wagon handles better due to more weight over the rear as well.
08 January 2007, 12:43 AM
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Wrong! that aint no estate, more a hatch back, thats why we call em wagons. Get with the lingo mate, Volvo make estates and they are about 40 foot long, our wagons are just saloons with a bit cobbled on the back.
08 January 2007, 01:07 AM
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Now be quiet, because youre showing yourself up.
08 January 2007, 01:10 AM
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Oh dear we are in a bad mood, is it blob week and you've just ran out of tampons?
08 January 2007, 02:54 AM
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As I understand it, the New Age wagon WRX and the saloon WRX have the same mechanicals except:
the saloon has a slightly wider track (about 10mm);
the wagon has slightly different rear springs and mounts, to potentially handle heavier loads;
the wagon's a little heavier, which adds a smidge (~ 0.1, 0.2 secs) to the 0-60;
the wagon has no rear bulkhead, so flexes a little more
On the upside, the wagon has more luggage room with the seats up, and lots more with the seats down. More to the point, it's much more acceptable to put a dog in the boot of the wagon than the boot of the saloon
particularly with the Subaru dog guard, which fits in nicely - although the hole for the centre seat belt to pass through does allow your dog to chew the rear head rest The wagon does also have that stealth factor.
On the down side, the wagon is slightly less modifiable than the saloon, though only slightly. Main difference is that it has an ET53 offset requirement for the wheels, because it doesn't have the widened wheel arches, which means that most aftermarket 18" wheels don't fit without rubbing the arches if you have lowered springs (and perhaps without lowering too). The only ones I've found that fit are a naff 11 spoke gold wheel that Subaru do, and Prodrive's P-WRC1, which are IMHO a nice wheel but dear. You'll also find it more difficult to get body kits, if you want such, but a front splitter fits fine and Subaru do front & rear lower spoilers. Revolution do some nice front and rear lower splitters that should fit with a little modification. The other downside is that stealth factor - I've been cut up on roundaouts a few times by people expecting me to be less quick off the mark. Having said that, the idiots would probably have done the same if I'd had a saloon with the STi wing on, no accounting for some people's behaviour
Re modification, using my wagon as an example, I've had Powerstation's stage 2 handling pack fitted, which is the same pack as would go on a saloon but needed a £50 set of camber bolts to go on the rear suspension. Good as gold. I've also had the Powerstation performance upgrade, good for 270+ BHP on a conservative rolling road (it's an 05 model year, 2.0l), and upgraded front disks and pads. Basically exactly the same as if I had a saloon, except for the camber bolts. I'm thinking about getting a rear strut brace to make up for the missing bulkhead, about £100, but it's not really needed.
The main downside of the wagon is that you can't get the New Age wagon in an STi model, though you could get classic wagon STis for a while. A pity that, but with appropriate mods you can make up for it a bit.
Re the estate vs wagon argument, technically I guess it's an estate. However, whereas estates often have a lengthened body over a saloon to create a larger load bay, the Impreza wagon is the same below the wasteline as the saloon, except for the flared wings on the WRX. The effect is that it's small for an estate car. It's debatable what the difference is between a "small estate" and a hatchback.
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the saloon has a slightly wider track (about 10mm);
the wagon has slightly different rear springs and mounts, to potentially handle heavier loads;
the wagon's a little heavier, which adds a smidge (~ 0.1, 0.2 secs) to the 0-60;
the wagon has no rear bulkhead, so flexes a little more
On the upside, the wagon has more luggage room with the seats up, and lots more with the seats down. More to the point, it's much more acceptable to put a dog in the boot of the wagon than the boot of the saloon
particularly with the Subaru dog guard, which fits in nicely - although the hole for the centre seat belt to pass through does allow your dog to chew the rear head rest The wagon does also have that stealth factor.On the down side, the wagon is slightly less modifiable than the saloon, though only slightly. Main difference is that it has an ET53 offset requirement for the wheels, because it doesn't have the widened wheel arches, which means that most aftermarket 18" wheels don't fit without rubbing the arches if you have lowered springs (and perhaps without lowering too). The only ones I've found that fit are a naff 11 spoke gold wheel that Subaru do, and Prodrive's P-WRC1, which are IMHO a nice wheel but dear. You'll also find it more difficult to get body kits, if you want such, but a front splitter fits fine and Subaru do front & rear lower spoilers. Revolution do some nice front and rear lower splitters that should fit with a little modification. The other downside is that stealth factor - I've been cut up on roundaouts a few times by people expecting me to be less quick off the mark. Having said that, the idiots would probably have done the same if I'd had a saloon with the STi wing on, no accounting for some people's behaviour
Re modification, using my wagon as an example, I've had Powerstation's stage 2 handling pack fitted, which is the same pack as would go on a saloon but needed a £50 set of camber bolts to go on the rear suspension. Good as gold. I've also had the Powerstation performance upgrade, good for 270+ BHP on a conservative rolling road (it's an 05 model year, 2.0l), and upgraded front disks and pads. Basically exactly the same as if I had a saloon, except for the camber bolts. I'm thinking about getting a rear strut brace to make up for the missing bulkhead, about £100, but it's not really needed.
The main downside of the wagon is that you can't get the New Age wagon in an STi model, though you could get classic wagon STis for a while. A pity that, but with appropriate mods you can make up for it a bit.
Re the estate vs wagon argument, technically I guess it's an estate. However, whereas estates often have a lengthened body over a saloon to create a larger load bay, the Impreza wagon is the same below the wasteline as the saloon, except for the flared wings on the WRX. The effect is that it's small for an estate car. It's debatable what the difference is between a "small estate" and a hatchback.
Dai
Last edited by daijones; 08 January 2007 at 02:57 AM. Reason: Cleared up an ambiguity
08 January 2007, 03:12 PM
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i have one Guys and have had 3 in total ....sportswagon/wagon/ whatever...its still a feckin' ESTATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT A HATCHBACK.
08 January 2007, 03:40 PM
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08 January 2007, 03:46 PM
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Re modification, using my wagon as an example, I've had Powerstation's stage 2 handling pack fitted, which is the same pack as would go on a saloon but needed a £50 set of camber bolts to go on the rear suspension. Good as gold. I've also had the Powerstation performance upgrade, good for 270+ BHP on a conservative rolling road (it's an 05 model year, 2.0l), and upgraded front disks and pads. Basically exactly the same as if I had a saloon, except for the camber bolts. I'm thinking about getting a rear strut brace to make up for the missing bulkhead, about £100, but it's not really needed.
I have one fitted Dai, and it feels much better
Made up some quick release bolts because of the B&Q trips and all that.
I have one fitted Dai, and it feels much better
Made up some quick release bolts because of the B&Q trips and all that.
08 January 2007, 03:47 PM
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