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Old 20 November 2006, 10:25 PM
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Before I start this thread i'd like to mention this wasn't a race, it was not in the wet, we were rollling i.e not from a standstill and there were no twisties involved.

Pulled off a roundabout today and floored my standard 2003 wrx, I didn't notice a car behind me but I looked to the right of me and a car was slowly overtaking me. It was only a flippin astray vxr. Just to let u no these are pretty nippy in the dry, when rolling and when there are no twisties.
Old 20 November 2006, 10:41 PM
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astra vxr's are really good fun to drive, if you can get you hands around the chunky steering wheel.
Old 20 November 2006, 10:43 PM
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Probably no surprise fella as the VXR's are 240bhp aren't they?!

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Old 20 November 2006, 10:48 PM
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Jesus are they as much as that. My mate has a turbo astra twin top 06 model and thats only 200bhp. I just assumed they had the same engine.
Old 20 November 2006, 10:51 PM
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Also the Astra VXR is a heavy car for it's size as it weighs 1393kg compared to a Classic Scoobs 1235kg.
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Jimpreza's WRX isn't a classic though is it? Says 2003 WRX ... probably down on power & just as heavy?

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Old 20 November 2006, 10:59 PM
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Sorry didn't see the 2003 bit in the first post. A girl I work with has a Astra VXR and says the problem with it is getting the power down and the resulting torque steer can be a handfull if you are not ready for it.
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Originally Posted by Daz1121
Also the Astra VXR is a heavy car for it's size as it weighs 1393kg compared to a Classic Scoobs 1235kg.

Thats stange my logbook says its 1750 kgs
Old 20 November 2006, 11:03 PM
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VXR's can be tuned to 280bhp quite cheaply.
Old 20 November 2006, 11:07 PM
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The thing that surprised me was when coming off the roundabout the road curved round pretty sharpish so couldn't of struggled that much to get the power down. Might go and have a test drive of one for a laugh. I bet they are good for dropping a cog for overtaking on single carriageways.

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That's the weight of a small star ... if this were true the VXR would be pretty slow & it clearly isn't.

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Originally Posted by Biggs
Thats stange my logbook says its 1750 kgs
Old 20 November 2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggs
Thats stange my logbook says its 1750 kgs
What's 1750kg? You sure that isn't a max weight including fluids, 5 people etc? I have Astra VXR down at 1393kg and 2003 WRX at 1395kg - i.e. nothing in it weight wise.

Astra of course has better aerodynamics, less transmission losses, a 6 speed box and torque coming a lot lower than the scoob, there's plenty of obvious reasons why it can upset a standard WRX whilst rolling.

On a dry road, unless you're launching, cornering at the limit whilst trying to accelerate, or squirting out of very tight stuff, they'll put the power down fine.

Checking Courtenay's website, they're talking 260+bhp for just a £550 remap, and 280+bhp for full exhaust and remap, and I don't believe their figures are as optimistic as some - so yes, they're pretty easily tunable
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1750KG is the "duty" weight...

Can't recall how it all works but it's related (or used to be related) to the taxation class of the vehicle.

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Old 21 November 2006, 09:31 AM
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standard 03 wrx wil be slower than a vxr once rolling, mine is only just quicker than a standard one when rolling, and mine a my00 uk turbo with mods
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Standard 03 wrx has 225bhp, awd losses inclusive it's bound to be slower than a 240bhp fwd car. The VXR steering wheel is awesome, 1,000,000% better than the bus like steering wheel of my 03 blob eye!
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Us MY03 owners need to start fiddling with our cars a bit more these days.
This current crop of "Hottus Hatchi" are becoming quicker and quicker.

Earlier this year on the way to Goodwood, again whilst rolling, I had one of the new Golf GTi's pull away from me quite noticeably around 50/60mph+ Mind you, I did have my air conditioning on, a full tank, two occupants and it was a warm day....lol!!
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Originally Posted by hades
What's 1750kg? You sure that isn't a max weight including fluids, 5 people etc? I have Astra VXR down at 1393kg and 2003 WRX at 1395kg - i.e. nothing in it weight wise.
Im not entirely sure tbh mate as the logbook has been sent to dvla...but when i was buying it the othr day i noticed that the logbook stated 1750 kgs
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Originally Posted by Biggs
Im not entirely sure tbh mate as the logbook has been sent to dvla...but when i was buying it the othr day i noticed that the logbook stated 1750 kgs
Kerb weight is what the car weighs with all fluids in place and a 75Kg driver, and that is what is usually stated in car specifications - in the case of a WRX classic - 1235KG or thereabouts.

Gross weight is the maximum weight the car is designed to cope with - which is probably your 1750KG figure.


EDIT: Yup - 1750Kg is the gross weight for a classic. Subaru Impreza FAQ
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...Cheers for that
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Kerb weight is what the car weighs with all fluids in place and a 75Kg driver
...well that's me at a disadvantage already LOL
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Originally Posted by v8voodoo
Us MY03 owners need to start fiddling with our cars a bit more these days.
This current crop of "Hottus Hatchi" are becoming quicker and quicker.
What like 340x333- 6 sec 60-100..?
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Originally Posted by v8voodoo
Us MY03 owners need to start fiddling with our cars a bit more these days.
This current crop of "Hottus Hatchi" are becoming quicker and quicker.

Earlier this year on the way to Goodwood, again whilst rolling, I had one of the new Golf GTi's pull away from me quite noticeably around 50/60mph+ Mind you, I did have my air conditioning on, a full tank, two occupants and it was a warm day....lol!!
Could of been me
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Originally Posted by fattb
Could of been me
Hey...!! How spooky...!! Wonder if it was you..? Roughly whereabouts did your encounter occur...?
Tell ya what, I got a proper ear bending off my passenger for that..lol!

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