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Old 07 November 2006, 07:40 PM
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Hi all, thought i'd share these with you all. Went up to see Andy F today, travelled from County Durham which is around 130ish miles. Got there at 10.00 am on the dot. Let the car cool down foor around 5 mins then Andy plugged her up (looked like a casualty victim with all the wires hanging off). Anyway, Andy uploaded the ECUTEK remap into the car and off we went down some nice straight & twisty roads where Andy lives, give the car some hammer in all sorts of gears and rev ranges.

Official figures from Andy are:-
(Still waiting for my graphs and readings from Andy as his printer was down)

328 bhp @ 6092 rpm
306 lbs ft torque

I think the turbo is running at 19psi (1.3 bar at full boost)

As you can imagine the ride home was a whole lot of fun

Big, big thankyou to Andy Forrest . Like driving a different car.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by Phil555
Hi all, thought i'd share these with you all. Went up to see Andy F today, travelled from County Durham which is around 130ish miles. Got there at 10.00 am on the dot. Let the car cool down foor around 5 mins then Andy plugged her up (looked like a casualty victim with all the wires hanging off). Anyway, Andy uploaded the ECUTEK remap into the car and off we went down some nice straight & twisty roads where Andy lives, give the car some hammer in all sorts of gears and rev ranges.

Official figures from Andy are:-
(Still waiting for my graphs and readings from Andy as his printer was down)

328 bhp @ 6092 rpm
306 lbs ft torque

I think the turbo is running at 19psi (1.3 bar at full boost)

As you can imagine the ride home was a whole lot of fun

Big, big thankyou to Andy Forrest . Like driving a different car.

Phil.

what car is it and what mods?
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy840
what car is it and what mods?
Classic MY00 with

VF24 turbo
Ported, polished & wrapped headers & up-pipe
K&N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
3" revolution exhaust system (full decat)
Modified oil pump
ECUTEK remap

Phil
Old 07 November 2006, 08:56 PM
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Nice figures
Andy F did a good job on mine to a couple years ago
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Originally Posted by filfy
Nice figures
Andy F did a good job on mine to a couple years ago
Pretty chuffed with what i got. Wasn't expecting them to be as high. Car feels and drives so much better. Hats off to the fella, he really knows his stuff.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by Phil555
Hi all, thought i'd share these with you all. Went up to see Andy F today, travelled from County Durham which is around 130ish miles. Got there at 10.00 am on the dot. Let the car cool down foor around 5 mins then Andy plugged her up (looked like a casualty victim with all the wires hanging off). Anyway, Andy uploaded the ECUTEK remap into the car and off we went down some nice straight & twisty roads where Andy lives, give the car some hammer in all sorts of gears and rev ranges.

Official figures from Andy are:-
(Still waiting for my graphs and readings from Andy as his printer was down)

328 bhp @ 6092 rpm
306 lbs ft torque

I think the turbo is running at 19psi (1.3 bar at full boost)

As you can imagine the ride home was a whole lot of fun

Big, big thankyou to Andy Forrest . Like driving a different car.

Phil.

He did the same to my 93wrx with an Apexi Power FC about 6 weeks ago. Totally different car to drive now (in a good way), what a difference! Hard to believe its the same engine, can't wait to get it on the rollers. Fair do's, he's the man!!
Taylor.
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good output, bet you are pleased.

I opted for the VF24 on my newage, excellent turbos...
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Varboy, what are you getting bhp-wise with the VF24 ? And what's the lag and spool up point like ?
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Originally Posted by Phil555
Classic MY00 with

VF24 turbo
Ported, polished & wrapped headers & up-pipe
K&N panel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
3" revolution exhaust system (full decat)
Modified oil pump
ECUTEK remap

Phil
excellent, hopefully that will bode well for my upgrade at API next week:

mines a MY03WRX which will have the following upgrades, hoping to make around 330bhp:

VF35 turbo
ported and wrapped headers
full decat exhaust
panel filter
ECUTec remap
Walbro 255 fuel pump
sti injectors

cant wait
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy840
excellent, hopefully that will bode well for my upgrade at API next week:

mines a MY03WRX which will have the following upgrades, hoping to make around 330bhp:

VF35 turbo
ported and wrapped headers
full decat exhaust
panel filter
ECUTec remap
Walbro 255 fuel pump
sti injectors

cant wait
How much (including the remap) is that going to rush you ? (if you don't mind)

Can the standard WRX gearbox take 330 ?
Old 08 November 2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
How much (including the remap) is that going to rush you ? (if you don't mind)

Can the standard WRX gearbox take 330 ?

will be just shy of £3K approx. been told the standard WRX gearbox on that year is good for a limit of around 350bhp-360bhp so 330bhp should be fine.

As long as I dont start trying 6K starts on a drag strip that is I assume. then it would probably go bang.......
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy840
will be just shy of £3K approx. been told the standard WRX gearbox on that year is good for a limit of around 350bhp-360bhp so 330bhp should be fine.

As long as I dont start trying 6K starts on a drag strip that is I assume. then it would probably go bang.......
I'm jealous now - I have a WRX300 (ie WRX PPP) and am beginning to crave more power - have you driven a WRX with power figures in the ball park you are aiming for ? I remember when I had the PPP fitted at the just after 1K, the extra 40 BHP made a noticible difference to the car (that and the sound of the exhaust ) - I can only dream of what another 60 on top of that would feel like (I want to keep my warranty for the time being - plus theres the issue of having 3K spare cash
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What's the difference between the VF35 and the VF24 ? I've heard the 35 isn't too bad for lag. Is the same true of the 24 ?
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
What's the difference between the VF35 and the VF24 ? I've heard the 35 isn't too bad for lag. Is the same true of the 24 ?
Can't say much for the VF35 but the VF24 I have on my motor is spot on. Much quicker spool up through the rev range than the TD04.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
I'm jealous now - I have a WRX300 (ie WRX PPP) and am beginning to crave more power - have you driven a WRX with power figures in the ball park you are aiming for ? I remember when I had the PPP fitted at the just after 1K, the extra 40 BHP made a noticible difference to the car (that and the sound of the exhaust ) - I can only dream of what another 60 on top of that would feel like (I want to keep my warranty for the time being - plus theres the issue of having 3K spare cash

not driven a wrx with 330bhp but will let you know next week what it feels like. i'm guessing the smile on my face will touch at the back of my head.
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Originally Posted by Phil555
Can't say much for the VF35 but the VF24 I have on my motor is spot on. Much quicker spool up through the rev range than the TD04.

Phil.
At what point does it spool up compared to the TD04 mate ?
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Phil, if you don't mind me asking how much
did it set you back for the remap alone ??

Thanks, Craig.
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Originally Posted by craig79
Phil, if you don't mind me asking how much
did it set you back for the remap alone ??

Thanks, Craig.
A Ecutek remap is about £595-ish, which includes buying the license, with subsequent maps costing around £200.

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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
How much (including the remap) is that going to rush you ? (if you don't mind)

Can the standard WRX gearbox take 330 ?
The standard gearboxes can take quite a bit of looked after....

i dont and mines still fine
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
At what point does it spool up compared to the TD04 mate ?
Spool up is just over 2100 revs. When I get the data trial form Andy I will be able to shed a bit more light on your question. From around 3000 revs the spool up is constant through the revs upto about 6500 revs.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by craig79
Phil, if you don't mind me asking how much
did it set you back for the remap alone ??

Thanks, Craig.
Craig, remap was £500 plus VAT (£587) for the ECUTEK. As GazTheHat has mentioned after that it is around £200 because you already have the license.

Phil.
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Phil,
Cheers mate thats a wee bit cheaper than I
had thought. Expected to pay £650ish.

While I'm on, does Andy 'smooth' out the performance
of the car or is there an actual increase in bhp / torque
once the mapping has been done? Always wondered
this

Craig.
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Originally Posted by craig79
Phil,
Cheers mate thats a wee bit cheaper than I
had thought. Expected to pay £650ish.

While I'm on, does Andy 'smooth' out the performance
of the car or is there an actual increase in bhp / torque
once the mapping has been done? Always wondered
this

Craig.
Decat centrepipe, VPower petrol and Andy F tinkering with his laptop resulted in a further 55bhp on my car ! Very noticeable. Makes me grin now
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Originally Posted by craig79
Phil,
Cheers mate thats a wee bit cheaper than I
had thought. Expected to pay £650ish.

While I'm on, does Andy 'smooth' out the performance
of the car or is there an actual increase in bhp / torque
once the mapping has been done? Always wondered
this

Craig.
Craig, the programme is uploaded then you take your car out on the road and Andy will set up to your requirements. Good fun as there isn't a speed camera of police officer in sight.
Well worth every penny.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Varboy, what are you getting bhp-wise with the VF24 ? And what's the lag and spool up point like ?
never rr'd it TBH so couldn't tell you of the bhp

turbo starts kicking in about 3k and pulls very hard from 3.5k right to red line (makes a cool noise as well)

I'm having my ported headers mapped in next week together with walbro and STi pink injectors so hoping it will be smooth as..... and the the turbo will kick in a little harder lower down
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Originally Posted by Phil555
Can't say much for the VF35 but the VF24 I have on my motor is spot on. Much quicker spool up through the rev range than the TD04.

Phil.
I personally found that the VF24 spooled up a bit later than the OEM TD04..

what other mods have you had?
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I think Phil means spool up compared to a TD04 on the std map. The std UK map is quite tame how it pulls in the boost on the OE turbo, a remapped VF24 will pull full boost possibly lower in the rpm range than an OE td04 set up. A properly remapped TD04 would of course pull boost earlier than a VF24 as it is a much smaller turbo but wouldn't hold the boost pressure as the rpm increased.

Andy
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
I think Phil means spool up compared to a TD04 on the std map. The std UK map is quite tame how it pulls in the boost on the OE turbo, a remapped VF24 will pull full boost possibly lower in the rpm range than an OE td04 set up. A properly remapped TD04 would of course pull boost earlier than a VF24 as it is a much smaller turbo but wouldn't hold the boost pressure as the rpm increased.

Andy
Hi Andy,

If you read this, thanks again for the great work you did on my green 01 WRX bug in July, which resulted in 273bhp with only centre decat.

So what would be the next turbo to go for ? I'd want as little lag as possible, fairly early spool up and maybe 330bhp. :Your own hybrid TD04, VF35 or VF24 or , well, something else ? And would the std gearbox cope ?

Cheers again,

Andy Mc
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
I think Phil means spool up compared to a TD04 on the std map. The std UK map is quite tame how it pulls in the boost on the OE turbo, a remapped VF24 will pull full boost possibly lower in the rpm range than an OE td04 set up. A properly remapped TD04 would of course pull boost earlier than a VF24 as it is a much smaller turbo but wouldn't hold the boost pressure as the rpm increased.

Andy
Thanks for that Andy. I knew what i meant (somehow)

Thanks once again for the remap. Car is running great.

Phil.
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Hi Andy,

If you read this, thanks again for the great work you did on my green 01 WRX bug in July, which resulted in 273bhp with only centre decat.

So what would be the next turbo to go for ? I'd want as little lag as possible, fairly early spool up and maybe 330bhp. :Your own hybrid TD04, VF35 or VF24 or , well, something else ? And would the std gearbox cope ?

Cheers again,

Andy Mc
TD04 hybrid, ported OE headers, and let Andy F work his magic. You will have 320 and your gearbox will be fine.
BUT be nice to it! No launches and change gear nicely and it will last forever.
Launches and harsh gear changes will b0rk your gearbox.


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