Why not to track your car - ouch!!!
21 July 2006, 10:43 PM
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Why not to track your car - ouch!!!
21 July 2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I'm sure he'll be along shortly 
Crash was of me at Japest 2004 Castle coombe and a good video of driver error. BTW it did take a bit more than Teecut to fix it
Here is a video of all 4 laps so you have an Idea of how I built up to the eventual crash http://www.sidtech.co.uk/vu/JAPFEST2004_ALL_LAPS.wmv
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21 July 2006, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Swen6
Now Lucko that must have hurt, don't think they'd have been turning up for work in the morn
22 July 2006, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wacky.banana
Stephen,
Thanks for this but this was out about 18 months ago. IIRC it was someone from off here!
Thanks for this but this was out about 18 months ago. IIRC it was someone from off here!
Did you read the posts? the owner's beat you to it
22 July 2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LUCKO
tell me about it, hopefully next time BedHog will be standing in the crowd and see if he finds it funny then
I was actually laughing at you saying Tony was driving it........ as per your post.
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22 July 2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BedHog
Hey, I work in Cannock - I'll be looking out for you and I'll pretend you're the crowd
I was actually laughing at you saying Tony was driving it........ as per your post.
I was actually laughing at you saying Tony was driving it........ as per your post.
whereabouts in Cannock do you work i'll keep my eye out for your Impreza... what type is it?
22 July 2006, 08:26 PM
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The vid was even used to demonstrate the typical Scoob's "snap" when oversteering. 
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463355
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463355
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
The vid was even used to demonstrate the typical Scoob's "snap" when oversteering.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463355
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463355
Totally my fault a schoolboy error, things do happen quite quickly at speed, I probably froze and looked at the Danger tyrewall rather than looking where I wanted to go Most of the speed had scrubbed off at that piont it snapped back.. "IF" i'd have got the oposite lock straight away would have been a different outcome. I have put a couple of scoobs in a simular slide and recovered it
I have no regrets about the incident as praticing my driving skills was limited to Trackdays rather than the open road.
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23 July 2006, 12:52 AM
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Here's what happens when you do grass when driving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn8V3hBmHs
And here's the crash test dummy school:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_hScygBT74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn8V3hBmHs
And here's the crash test dummy school:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_hScygBT74
23 July 2006, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
As said in the original post Totally my fault a schoolboy error, things do happen quite quickly at speed, I probably froze and looked at the Danger tyrewall rather than looking where I wanted to go
Most of the speed had scrubbed off at that piont it snapped back.. "IF" i'd have got the oposite lock straight away would have been a different outcome. I have put a couple of scoobs in a simular slide and recovered it
I have no regrets about the incident as praticing my driving skills was limited to Trackdays rather than the open road.
Tony
Totally my fault a schoolboy error, things do happen quite quickly at speed, I probably froze and looked at the Danger tyrewall rather than looking where I wanted to go Most of the speed had scrubbed off at that piont it snapped back.. "IF" i'd have got the oposite lock straight away would have been a different outcome. I have put a couple of scoobs in a simular slide and recovered it
I have no regrets about the incident as praticing my driving skills was limited to Trackdays rather than the open road.
Tony
To sum it up: Scoobs: Not "that" good in the twisties. But your better for it knowing what it "may" do during the twisties on the open road. Which is more than can be said for people who have yet to experience the back end bite
23 July 2006, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
Agreed, once a scoob bit you, you are aware of what it "can do" and TBH once you were broad side your options of of how to get back control are critical, and it can get the best of people when caught unawares.
To sum it up: Scoobs: Not "that" good in the twisties. But your better for it knowing what it "may" do during the twisties on the open road. Which is more than can be said for people who have yet to experience the back end bite
To sum it up: Scoobs: Not "that" good in the twisties. But your better for it knowing what it "may" do during the twisties on the open road. Which is more than can be said for people who have yet to experience the back end bite
i experienced the back end bite when i wrote off my scooby sort 2 months ago. was coming from a left bend to a right one when something came across the road in front of me. swerved right as the back end was finsihing the left still/ back end went left and front went right. i then sterred left to componsate. back snapped back and went right, front went left, span a couple of times, and collided with metal railings that were originally on passengers side, on the drivers side (ie ended up facing on coming traffic)
followed by two months off work for whiplash and a severe hatred towards anything that crosses the road in front of me.
23 July 2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
As said in the original post Totally my fault a schoolboy error, things do happen quite quickly at speed, I probably froze and looked at the Danger tyrewall rather than looking where I wanted to go
Most of the speed had scrubbed off at that piont it snapped back.. "IF" i'd have got the oposite lock straight away would have been a different outcome. I have put a couple of scoobs in a simular slide and recovered it
I have no regrets about the incident as praticing my driving skills was limited to Trackdays rather than the open road.
Tony
Totally my fault a schoolboy error, things do happen quite quickly at speed, I probably froze and looked at the Danger tyrewall rather than looking where I wanted to go Most of the speed had scrubbed off at that piont it snapped back.. "IF" i'd have got the oposite lock straight away would have been a different outcome. I have put a couple of scoobs in a simular slide and recovered it
I have no regrets about the incident as praticing my driving skills was limited to Trackdays rather than the open road.
Tony
23 July 2006, 09:23 AM
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Well Phil Keen in the Litcho Impreza almost copied Tony's efforts.
But this time it wasn't driver error.
First lap out in it too. Thru Camp, floors it changes into 4th big puff of smoke big oil slick and as he turns in for Folly (flat out right hander) the oil is on the rear tyres and he goes into the biggest spin ever.
Think he brushed the front end against the barriers but no real damage otherwise!
What a save.
Manages to drive back to the pits tho but don't think the car came out again as something underneath must have broken to lose all that oil.
But this time it wasn't driver error.
First lap out in it too. Thru Camp, floors it changes into 4th big puff of smoke big oil slick and as he turns in for Folly (flat out right hander) the oil is on the rear tyres and he goes into the biggest spin ever.
Think he brushed the front end against the barriers but no real damage otherwise!
What a save.
Manages to drive back to the pits tho but don't think the car came out again as something underneath must have broken to lose all that oil.
23 July 2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Can't say fairer than that, Tony! As soon as I saw it I thought you almost got it back........
famous for being a cr4p driver 
I rarely go out without passenger and none of them have ever complained the didn't get a good ride, I don't do slow
As demonstated in this video of all my laps at Japfest with the Crash being the 4th lap http://www.sidtech.co.uk/vu/JAPFEST2004_ALL_LAPS.wmv
Luckly I had full protected No Claims bonus so the Carsh didn't hurt to much
Tony
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Letting go of the steering wheel would no doubt have saved the day . . .
. . .But at times easier said than done - especially if one is gripped by panic . . But there is also a law of diminishing returns . .
So as the drift angle increases, the tyres adhesion to the road dimishes . . .AS I quite recently discovered, putting the car to bout a perpendicular angle relative to the cars actual velocity - will result in two things . . .
A) You will sh*t yourself . .
B) The tyres aligning torque / steering input will not make the car respond . .
. . .But at times easier said than done - especially if one is gripped by panic . . But there is also a law of diminishing returns . . So as the drift angle increases, the tyres adhesion to the road dimishes . . .AS I quite recently discovered, putting the car to bout a perpendicular angle relative to the cars actual velocity - will result in two things . . .
A) You will sh*t yourself . .
B) The tyres aligning torque / steering input will not make the car respond . .
23 July 2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
- will result in two things . . .
A) You will sh*t yourself . .
B) The tyres aligning torque / steering input will not make the car respond . .
A) You will sh*t yourself . .
B) The tyres aligning torque / steering input will not make the car respond . .
There was a post recently with a video of an irish guy playing on an Airfield
His video demonstrates the Frontwheel drive tecnique that should be used if there is enough room of course.Tony
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Can i just say that i was Tony's pax this year at Jap fest on that very track where things went wrong 2 years ago, all day everyone was saying you must be mad, but a thought whats the worse that can happen, he cant make me pregnet and i could die, well you can die and time so why not when you have a massive smile on your face, it was 1 of the best experinces of my life and i thank you Tony.
And he can drive.
And he can drive.
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
What's that??
Front wheel drive car Technique being using Front wheel power to pull you into the Apex.
Originally Posted by Pete Warburton
Can i just say that i was Tony's pax this year at Jap fest on that very track where things went wrong 2 years ago .......it was 1 of the best experinces of my life and i thank you Tony.
And he can drive.
And he can drive.
I said you would Tony
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