C2forWRX

Turned off my wrx ppp thismorning after a trip out and the engine was still running! whats all that about. took the key totally out! put it back in and tryed to start/ turn off again and it eventally died

anyone experianced this before? cant be healthy

MrMagoo

Have you got a TURBO TIMER??

staffychance

Could your timing be out.....??

May it be a dodgy ignition

C2forWRX

no i dont have a timer!

Iginition could be a problem. I recently had trouble starting the car like 2 or 3 times in the 5 months that I have had it, the car almost wouldnt start. I assumed it may be the dreaded newage flat battery syndrome but car got checked at dealers and they orderd a new battery for me. The battery is due to be fitted on the 21st but im thinking its the ignition not the battery now.

SC008Y_MAD

iTrader: (5)

Get the dealers to check it out....again

misty

Pre ignition mate!!!!! The carbon on the pistons glows and ignites the petrol!!! Very serious fault!! Sounds like the timing is well out (to advanced) or it's ready for the heads off and a good de-coke in order.
dave

Graz

If it were pre ignition it is as you say very serious. However I doubt very much that a fuel injected car would do this. Turning off the ignition should kill the sparks, kill the fuel pump/injectors, and possibly shut the idle valve(?). There is no way it could carry on running then.

Different to the days when cars had carberettas and you could carry on drawing in fuel even with the ignition off.

Sounds like an electrical fault to me, start with the ignition switch.

trevsubwrx1

Interesting, see my thread posted today, similar problem. If you get it sorted, let me know.

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528043

C2forWRX

will do. Dont let the garage fob you off with a dodgey battery. they had my car 4hrs and said it needs a new battery. they didnt even have one in stock!

C2forWRX

well dealer said see if it happens again as they have never come across it before so fingers crossed it was a 1 off

Carl2

Is it still running properly or slowly and jerkily?

C2forWRX

well it only happend once and i didnt know what was going on i qickly put the key back in tuned it to on thenslowly off again and it died. definaly wasnt running like normal when still on. i recon it may have eventually died if i had left it and not botherd doing what i did with the key.

Carl2

Sounds more like pre ignition than say a faulty ignition switch.
When it runs on, it tends to be slow and lumpy as it fires erratically, then stops.

BedHog

Got to be an electrical fault with the ignition switch, can't think of any other way it could happen.

Gary C

Unless the injectors are firing and the pump running, then there is no fuel (unless the injectors a leaking and its running on residual pressure, unlikely), if there is no fuel, then it will not run on.

If its old school running on, then it will surge, die, surge , die and generally rattle about.

Bet the ignition barrel shaft is worn where it enters the actual ignition part (ie the bit with the electrical contacts) or the screws which screw the plastic bit onto the lock barrel are loose allowing it to jump positions.

Get it sorted as it will only get worse, and you will probably either not be able to start it, or stop it.

Gary C

Did you sort it ?

Pain when people have a problem, ask for advice, then never update scoobynet with the result

Shark Man

If it was doing this, YOU'D KNOW by the noise it made. It would sound like a bag of spanners when your turn off the ignition. And it won't happen with Efi as there is no fuel injected when the ignition is off...no fuel = no combustion, unlike carburettored cars.

Suggest ignitio switch is faulty, or there is a turbo timer. I also once happened upon an old Escort that did this, due to a wiring problem it was running off the Alternator...switch on the headlamps and the engine would stop

[Davey]

It wont be an engine problem because EFI engined cant run without power. Old school engines with mechanical fuel pumps used to have this problem.

Your ignition switch is probably fudged.

g3m xr

dont laugh but had that prob with my old escort cabriolet ! and it was the fuse box ! proper scarey when it happen had to stall it to shut the engine off !

[Davey]

They are re-nound for cooking fuse boxes though the dodgy Spanish work force are to blame I say!

g3m xr

it had 3 in 12 months lol

gotmashed

ive had this on other cars turned out to be the wires going to the ignition warmed and the plastic coated broke off and made contact it even started the car in the middle of the night if the wind blew hard enough worth a look

Gary C

BUT will we ever find out WHAT HAPPENED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C2forWRX

haha, yes you will mate ive been on holdiday for a week. spain, it was nice...

my motor spent all of it at the dealer though. precisely 30 mins before i was setting off to the airport it happend again. this time i was in my town centre. parked, took keys out, still running, eventually died but battery was still on fans radio etc. got out and tryed to lock and wouldnt because was still "on". tried to start it and it wouldn't, tried its best, but wouldnt fire. I rang dealer as i was in a rush and they were just outside the town centre. they wizzed down to help me straight away (thanks Jennings middlesbrough). by this time the car had been stood for 20 mins. they put the keys in and started it first time! (I blushed and looked stupid) But then they turned it off took the keys out and it was still running!!! for once i was happy for this to happen because at least then the mechanics could witness it! neither knew the problem so got it going again and took it to the dealer. I however blitzed to leeds bradford as check in was about to close!!!

I am now back from hols and spoke to dealer who have orderd an ignition barrel. hopefully this will solve it. unfortionatly parts are on back order so i am carless and have spent best part of today chasing IM to get me a hire car!

right, going back to bed.

C2forWRX

right well parts could take 10 more days so im car less. I cannot have a free hire car as you need to be over 21 (im 20). GREAT!

RS Grant

I got a hire car at 19/20 mate... dont let them fob you off with that.

All that happened was that I had to prove I was insured, accept a higher excess and take a smaller class of vehicle from the rental company. I can give you my cars registration at the time, dealership and work carried out if you need it to confirm it with them to check back history?? Just PM me if you want the info.


Cheers,
Grant

Gary C

Hope Spain was good

Hope you get it back soon. Why can't the dealer lend you one of their runabouts ?, My dealer gives my a C2 and I insure it. My insurance company covers it for free (as its a much lower risk than my STi).

Eeee, a WRX at under 21. I had a 90bhp astra SR and a 110bhp Manta GTE at that age and though I was lucky

C2forWRX

I cut a long story short above.

I was allowed a hire car, I was in fact picked up by the hire car people and took to there office to fill in forms. whilst doing this I was told that I had to be 21 to go on the hire car companys insurance and the only way i could have the car was to insure it on my insurance. I did not really want to do this but agreed. When i rang my insurer to do this they told be i would have to pay nearly £40 for 5 days to do this. I could not believe this as the car i was getting was a toyota corolla and assumed as it was a lesser priced and performance car that they would just say yea no probs. trouble is I would have to pay for it. subaru were paying for the car but i was going to have to pay for insuring it. this made me mad as i payed 2K to insure my scoob and i had already wasted 10 days of it being off the road whilst i was away. If i hadnt been on holiday when the car was in the garage i would have been fuming. anyway with the parts being on back order i may have had to have the hire car for longer than 5 days effectively making me pay to insure it again. I dare say i could have billed subaru for the insurance costs but there was no guarrentee of them paying for it. besides i could not ring them as they shut over the weekend.

As for the dealer giving me a car, they have a 3 week waiting list for courtesy cars. as i hadnt booked the scoob in because it broke and i just left it with them so i could really get one.

I have now put my self as a named driver on my mothers car so i can get about if im desperate but at my cost and only for a week.

10 days insurance for scoob is about £50 + what i payed to go on my mothers, im looking at £70 so far. and i have no fix date so could be much more.

sick as.

p.s: spain was ace.

Bil

im pretty sure i had this problem on my cosworth a few yrs back

cant remember how i sorted it though.

yhe chod

if the wrx is under warranty write a polite but firm letter to customer services at subaru or subaru dealer to cover costs. if it turns out to be the barrell.especially as its taking so long .
take it higher if the dealer dont respond.
worth a try