Has the S.W.R.T. lost it's Grip??
21 May 2006, 07:33 PM
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Has the S.W.R.T. lost it's Grip??
After the 2 non finishes in Italy this weekend has the Subaru world Rally Team lost it's grip, because their performance recently has been very very poor.
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21 May 2006, 07:41 PM
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Excruciatingly hideous wasn't it? 
First the tyres were failing and then there are mechanical problems. No wonder poor Petter was speechless 
I could have wept for him. He looked sooo cute in that footage though
First the tyres were failing and then there are mechanical problems. No wonder poor Petter was speechless I could have wept for him. He looked sooo cute in that footage though
21 May 2006, 07:59 PM
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At least the Subaru rally cars resemble the road going version.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
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How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
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Originally Posted by graeme.
At least the Subaru rally cars resemble the road going version.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
21 May 2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by graeme.
At least the Subaru rally cars resemble the road going version.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
The homo rules should state that a proper production version with the same running gear and chassis should be produced for less than £28k. That should rule out Ford 
21 May 2006, 08:09 PM
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Ie get back to group A rules.
But then ford/citroen/peugot pull out and you get Subaru and Mitsi scrapping for the title alone again.
Hum, sounds ok to me
But then ford/citroen/peugot pull out and you get Subaru and Mitsi scrapping for the title alone again.
Hum, sounds ok to me
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21 May 2006, 08:21 PM
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I dont suppose Mr Atkinson helped Subaru's cause by stuffing his car so close to the end of the rally. When i saw his jump on stage 8 i thought he was trying to fly to the finish line 
Its a good job there aren't many options for drivers these days or Petter would be off like a shot.
Nik
Its a good job there aren't many options for drivers these days or Petter would be off like a shot.
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
I dont suppose Mr Atkinson helped Subaru's cause by stuffing his car so close to the end of the rally. When i saw his jump on stage 8 i thought he was trying to fly to the finish line
Its a good job there aren't many options for drivers these days or Petter would be off like a shot.
Nik
Its a good job there aren't many options for drivers these days or Petter would be off like a shot.
Nik
Nice looking though
21 May 2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by graeme.
At least the Subaru rally cars resemble the road going version.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
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21 May 2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by graeme.
At least the Subaru rally cars resemble the road going version.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
How many Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, etc, do you see with 4 wheel drive, proper suspension, power.......??
The rules should be changed, as all the other cars have a massive advantage over the Subaru - i.e. - smaller, lighter, etc.
Some might even call it unfair, others might even call them cheating *******s !!!
Regards,
Graeme.
21 May 2006, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
I could have wept for him. He looked sooo cute in that footage though
Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
we should get Loeb but he is French
Nice looking though 
22 May 2006, 12:07 PM
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I think Pirelli have got quite a bit to answer for rather than just SWRT/Prodrive.
Would love to see the scoob run on some BF Goodrich tyres like the rest of the top runners to see how much difference they really make.
Would love to see the scoob run on some BF Goodrich tyres like the rest of the top runners to see how much difference they really make.
22 May 2006, 12:09 PM
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Where can I get a list of what rallyings on tv and when, i always seem to miss it??
) is normally shown on the Sunday at the end of the rally.Yesterday it was shown on ITV4 at 6.00p.m. and again on ITV1 at about midnight.
I think it is also repeated on Men & Motors on Monday nights.
22 May 2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
The 1 hour highlights (yep thats all ) is normally shown on the Sunday at the end of the rally.
Yesterday it was shown on ITV4 at 6.00p.m. and again on ITV1 at about midnight.
I think it is also repeated on Men & Motors on Monday nights.
) is normally shown on the Sunday at the end of the rally.Yesterday it was shown on ITV4 at 6.00p.m. and again on ITV1 at about midnight.
I think it is also repeated on Men & Motors on Monday nights.
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I think a big problem is the cr+p tyres that pirelli are making, they just dont perform aswell as the other for their cars! Therefore Petter is pushing the subaru harder and harder and then he get reliability issues and an awful lot of bad luck over the last 12months!!! I dont understand why teams sign up for sponsership deals with tyre suppliers for such along time! Ferrari have had the same problem with bridgestone until recently.
I would like to see petter in the model subaru that he won the championship with! that was reliable, fast and he enjoyed driving it! that bloody xsara is how old????? yet still wins, the new cars performance must not have been improved that much if loeb can still win comfortably!
I would like to see petter in the model subaru that he won the championship with! that was reliable, fast and he enjoyed driving it! that bloody xsara is how old????? yet still wins, the new cars performance must not have been improved that much if loeb can still win comfortably!
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Eye off the ball looking at other projects (single seater's) senior guys are all posturing and posing for a place in Dave Richards new team.
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WRC is becoming a bit like F1 - Citroen/Loeb = Renault/Alonso
Is it really just down to the tyres? The other teams are using BF Goodrich this year. Have you heard of them in Rallying before? I certainly haven't.
How can they come in and produce a tyre that works much like the Michelin did yet Pirelli who have had sooo much time to get it right - still hasn't?
Atkinson is good on his day but he's building a reputation like that of Francois Duval.
Gotta say seeing Loeb running away with the championship and with Gronholm being the only close challenger is rather boring on an entertainment front.
Is it really just down to the tyres? The other teams are using BF Goodrich this year. Have you heard of them in Rallying before? I certainly haven't.
How can they come in and produce a tyre that works much like the Michelin did yet Pirelli who have had sooo much time to get it right - still hasn't?
Atkinson is good on his day but he's building a reputation like that of Francois Duval.
Gotta say seeing Loeb running away with the championship and with Gronholm being the only close challenger is rather boring on an entertainment front.
22 May 2006, 05:11 PM
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I remember when Petter joined Subaru. He was an embarrasment and let SWRT down at every event. Since then he has reached a peak and seems to be on a downward spiral though to be fair the cars keep letting the boy down. What annoys me is that SWRT employ "trainee" drivers who become competent then run off to other camps, just look at Marko Martin. Cut his teeth with SWRT (and was utter rubbish) then triumphed with Ford. SWRT need to recruit some professionals. Bring Colin McCrae back or get Marcus Gronholm to sign for Subaru in 2008. I suppose we should get Loeb but he is French Nice looking though
Nice looking though
Yes the 04 car was more reliable & a better package (apart from watersplashes). I suspect that the new car in a straight race, would set faster stage times if Petter drove them back to back.
The other teams are working as well, taking steps forward. What SWRT need is the odd leap to bridge the gap. Kronos are a face for Citroen. They do not keep or prep the car, it is all done by Citroen. The car is delivered before & picked up after each rally. During this season they have been getting new parts homologated & fitted all the time.
Ford have been moving the new Focus forward, it may not seem so at times, but they are. They use the company that prepared the Peugeot engines working on theirs. The Peugeot is well regarded in the service as the most powerful. So hopefully they will get to grips with the Citroen.
22 May 2006, 06:42 PM
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let me get this straight you are a bloke are you??? or arent you???
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errr i dont wanna go to canal street then , not now , not ever , ever , ever .. ill leave gay street (sorry i mean) **** street , DoH canal street for the fudgepackers
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Peel of the BF Goodrich stickers and it will have Michelin underneath.
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The WRC must be the only form of World Motorsport that has went so far backwards in such a short amount of time.
Due to a stupid rule change, at the end of 2003, they went from having 6 or 7 top class drivers all capable of winning; to 3.
So Loeb has a reliable car, the best tyres and a whole lot of easy wins with no-one to challenge him.
David
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The WRC must be the only form of World Motorsport that has went so far backwards in such a short amount of time.
Due to a stupid rule change, at the end of 2003, they went from having 6 or 7 top class drivers all capable of winning; to 3.
So Loeb has a reliable car, the best tyres and a whole lot of easy wins with no-one to challenge him.
David
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
Obviously you don't know what Canal street in Manchester is then...... It's the place to go if you are interested in meeting the other gay (or thousand) in the village, which apears to be handy for Anthony.
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
errr i dont wanna go to canal street then , not now , not ever , ever , ever .. ill leave gay street (sorry i mean) **** street , DoH canal street for the fudgepackers
So why slag me off in that manner
By the way, do Scotsmen wear knickers under their kilts
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Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
You wouldn't slag off an asian or other ethnic using derogatory terms would you
So why slag me off in that manner
So why slag me off in that manner
Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
By the way, do Scotsmen wear knickers under their kilts
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Originally Posted by Anthony Crichton-Wheeler
Oooh aren't you terribly perceptive
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
No need for perception, it's in your profile you proudly display "A stones throw from Canal Street - very handy!!" and you keep saying how cute men are. As a Manchester lad it's hard not to know what you are happy to publicly state means you are Gay, or did i use a non PC term these days for being Homosexual?
No offence mate
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
Obviously you don't know what Canal street in Manchester is then...... It's the place to go if you are interested in meeting the other gay (or thousand) in the village, which apears to be handy for Anthony.