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Old 05 May 2006, 09:40 AM
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Default How can you tell if an imprezza has 305ps upgrade?

As the question states how can you tell if the upgrade has been carried out?
What changes are made over the 265ps model to gain the extra power?

I see black 04 plate up for sale down the road from me and it's claimed it's the 305ps model but the salesman was not too confident sounding when he said it. It's a private dealer and the car was not on premises at the time but should be when i go back
Old 05 May 2006, 09:43 AM
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give us a clue mate do you mean the prodrive preformance pack

what Model year/car are you talking about
Old 05 May 2006, 09:47 AM
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it's an o4 plate sti, and yes i mean the prodrive performance pack upgrade from 265 to 305ps
Old 05 May 2006, 10:01 AM
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it should come with a certificate from subaru confriming the upgrade has carried out. i think they call it a "certificate of fitment"
check the owner's pack when you see the car
Old 05 May 2006, 11:01 AM
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Also, the tailpipe has Prodrive written on it.
Old 05 May 2006, 11:28 AM
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that's not to say though they haven't just bought a prodrive exhaust
Old 05 May 2006, 11:44 AM
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can't subaru confirm from the VIN?
Old 05 May 2006, 11:57 AM
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However
My car was fitted with the prodrive ecu and fuel pump jobbies by the first owner,the car develops around 305 bhp,but the first owner bought the items private,had them fitted/set up etc,thus i dont have a certificate of fitment,i asked my dealer if they checked the items were o.e prodrive spec could they supply a certificate,and they could not as it wasnt bought/fitted by them

also,my car has an aftermarket exhaust system,so this takes away the "prodrive" stamp on the rear can
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so not a PPP then.
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well 265bhp will feel gutless, and 305 will go ok!
Old 05 May 2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jd5217
so not a PPP then.
Yeah!
It's missing a differant coloured pipe on the intercooler
Old 05 May 2006, 12:35 PM
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not all ppp came with ic pipe, also you have a different exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Jacey Boy
well 265bhp will feel gutless, and 305 will go ok!
The 265bhp one will feel plenty fast enough when on boost! PPP cars are registered with IM, phone them and they can tell you I believe.

Ns04
Old 05 May 2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbaz1979
As the question states how can you tell if the upgrade has been carried out?
What changes are made over the 265ps model to gain the extra power?
The changes are a changed rear section of the exhaust that is visible, and as already mentioned, stamped with Prodrive on it (on the top).
The Certificate should be in with the logbook - it's a very official looking document, in Prodrive Blue, and not the sort of thing you'd throw away I hope, so if it's not there then that casts some doubt.
Last thing is to check with Subaru themselves - try phoning them directly ?

Unless you want to start getting into mechanics world I don't think there's much else you can do - the fuel pump gets changed, the ECU is changed - you'll not be able to see any of that.

Martin.
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
The 265bhp one will feel plenty fast enough when on boost! PPP cars are registered with IM, phone them and they can tell you I believe.

Ns04
What is IM?

Hopefully have the chance to view car tomorrow and if all is well i might just buy it! It's a garage selling on behalf of a customer so tends to be there weekends only
Old 05 May 2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
The 265bhp one will feel plenty fast enough when on boost! PPP cars are registered with IM, phone them and they can tell you I believe.

Ns04
Are you serious?, yes if you are used to a Vauxhall Corsa!!
Old 05 May 2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jacey Boy
Are you serious?, yes if you are used to a Vauxhall Corsa!!
Probably feels slow after your ferrari eh.
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Probably feels slow after your ferrari eh.
LOL
Old 05 May 2006, 05:45 PM
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If its got round Prodrive backbox its almost def a PPP model. This pipe cannot be bought separately from PPP pack. They will only sell u an oval shaped one unless u buy PPP. If its got an oval one therefore its not PPP!!
Old 05 May 2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by anthscooby01
If its got round Prodrive backbox its almost def a PPP model. This pipe cannot be bought separately from PPP pack. They will only sell u an oval shaped one unless u buy PPP. If its got an oval one therefore its not PPP!!

Unless it was one of the many you can get on ebay surely.
Old 05 May 2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Probably feels slow after your ferrari eh.
No but feels slow compared to my VX220 Turbo!!
Old 05 May 2006, 09:37 PM
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If its anything like an MY02 STI in performance it will go like you left the handbrake on till it hits boost if it does not have PPP. Different story when fitted.
Old 06 May 2006, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WRXewl
If its anything like an MY02 STI in performance it will go like you left the handbrake on till it hits boost if it does not have PPP. Different story when fitted.
Perfect sum up!
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I have to chuckle when people talk disdainfully about a 265hp Impreza like it's the slowest thing on the road!
Old 06 May 2006, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I have to chuckle when people talk disdainfully about a 265hp Impreza like it's the slowest thing on the road!
Its not the fastest though is it
Old 06 May 2006, 09:10 AM
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No, but to say that 265hp will feel gutless is a bit thick! I'm sure if Michael Schumacher jumped into a Vauxhall 220 thing it would feel pretty gutless too!
Old 06 May 2006, 09:16 AM
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0-100 in 10 seconds, he would think it was failry fast
Old 06 May 2006, 09:21 AM
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A stock sti hits 60 in 5.2ish, the vx 220 4.7ish, not a big difference.
Perhaps the vx feels quicker because its lower to the ground ?
There's no way an sti is a slow car.
Remember its also a four door family saloon



Originally Posted by Jacey Boy
Its not the fastest though is it
Old 06 May 2006, 09:26 AM
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So Michael Schumacher would think that your Vauxhall is fast after driving an F1 car, but you would think a 265hp Impreza is slow after driving your vauxhall?
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Power to weight my dear watson!

My car is remapped to 250BHP, thats 277BHP per ton!!, a standard STi is 182BHP per ton, work it out

My VX would beat my 350+ STI, I own both so I know from experiance


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