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Old 26 February 2006, 01:21 PM
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Unhappy PF7 Replica wheel probs

Now I don't want to be a scare monger or a drama queen.....but

....one of my wheels is cracked

so it might be worth giving yours a bit of a once over if you have them fitted.

although,hopefully mine is just a one-off



not the best of pics I admit,but I noticed that the paint had started to bubble



so rubbed it back with a bit of emery to reveal a crack right thro the width of the web



in the last pic you can make out the area I'm on about.To my knowledge the wheel has had no major hits at all and the car is only used for normal everyday road driving.I'll speak to the suppliers tomorrow.hopefully they won't get 'the ache' too much for me posting on here...and please ignore the centre cap logo!

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Old 26 February 2006, 01:26 PM
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where did u get them from M8 ?
Old 26 February 2006, 01:27 PM
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Hmmm.... iirc Mike Wood did say if the copies have just used the same 'mould' to get the same look they wouldn't be strong enough as the PFF7s are flow formed.

I hope the supplier gives you a good answer (are they from Revolution) as my new set go on an MY06 on wednesday and if this turns out to be a product problem i won't just be asking for my money back as i'll be p*ssed beyond all belief as i got rid of some 18" Prodrive P-WRCs for these!!! But lets see what they say first

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Old 26 February 2006, 01:46 PM
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hope it all works out ok!

Think I'll save a few more pennies and get the prodrive items.
Old 26 February 2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Hmmm.... iirc Mike Wood did say if the copies have just used the same 'mould' to get the same look they wouldn't be strong enough as the PFF7s are flow formed.

I hope the supplier gives you a good answer (are they from Revolution) as my new set go on an MY06 on wednesday and if this turns out to be a product problem i won't just be asking for my money back as i'll be p*ssed beyond all belief as i got rid of some 18" Prodrive P-WRCs for these!!! But lets see what they say first

Tony.
as if you got rid of some p-wrc's for a schnidey copy of some Pff7's!!!
Old 26 February 2006, 07:17 PM
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Mine are beginning to bubble on the back wheels. Don't know how they are though as the previous owner bought them second hand. Was thinking of getting them powder coated anyway.
Old 26 February 2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Pope
Mine are beginning to bubble on the back wheels. Don't know how they are though as the previous owner bought them second hand. Was thinking of getting them powder coated anyway.
Best not to as powder coating wheels can weaken them
Old 26 February 2006, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
as if you got rid of some p-wrc's for a schnidey copy of some Pff7's!!!
Check the for sale threads and you'll see when i sold them. Or ask the new owner of them (Big Head). I don't take kindly to being called a liar idot

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Edited to add the location... P-WRCs for sale

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Old 26 February 2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Check the for sale threads and you'll see when i sold them. Or ask the new owner of them (Big Head). I don't take kindly to being called a liar idot

Tony.

Edited to add the location... P-WRCs for sale
mate im not calling you a liar i was meaning i think p-wrc's are 10 times better than pff7 copys imo thats all. no offence itended
Old 26 February 2006, 09:23 PM
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That's not how it reads, you wrote 'as if you got rid....' . 'As if' means you were questioning what i said.

Not the place to be dragging this about as it detracts from the main subject which could be quite serious, however i'd read over what you write before posting as you could rub people up the wrong way!

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Old 26 February 2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
That's not how it reads, you wrote 'as if you got rid....' . 'As if' means you were questioning what i said.

Not the place to be dragging this about as it detracts from the main subject which could be quite serious, however i'd read over what you write before posting as you could rub people up the wrong way!

Tony.
I can see what you mean. sorry mate!
Old 26 February 2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
That's not how it reads,
thats how it read for me, i couldn't believe you shot him down like that. well i do believe it as its wrote down infront of me!! but you see what i mean.

its like if someones tell you bad news you might say "your joking" but you know there not joking, don't you??

stevie
Old 26 February 2006, 11:07 PM
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WRC1's=classics

PFF7's=newage



tomorrow I hope to have some discounted Anthracite Turini's heading my way,fingers crossed
Old 26 February 2006, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
tomorrow I hope to have some discounted Anthracite Turini's heading my way,fingers crossed

didnt you used to have a set on your 03?
Old 27 February 2006, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
I can see what you mean. sorry mate!
LOL... no worries

Tony.
Old 27 February 2006, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sammyh
Best not to as powder coating wheels can weaken them
how does powder coating weaken the whels?
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Old 27 February 2006, 09:49 AM
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The high temps i believe have an effect.... not sure if that's true or not tho .

Tony.
Old 27 February 2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker

tomorrow I hope to have some discounted Anthracite Turini's heading my way,fingers crossed
You know it makes sense
Old 27 February 2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
Now I don't want to be a scare monger or a drama queen.....but

....one of my wheels is cracked

so it might be worth giving yours a bit of a once over if you have them fitted.

although,hopefully mine is just a one-off



not the best of pics I admit,but I noticed that the paint had started to bubble



so rubbed it back with a bit of emery to reveal a crack right thro the width of the web



in the last pic you can make out the area I'm on about.To my knowledge the wheel has had no major hits at all and the car is only used for normal everyday road driving.I'll speak to the suppliers tomorrow.hopefully they won't get 'the ache' too much for me posting on here...and please ignore the centre cap logo!

Jon
My god a crack right through a web without stressing the wheel, ie without hitting anything is very very worrying.
I would steer clear of these copies, an accident waiting to happen at high speed!

Worried dipster
Old 27 February 2006, 11:00 AM
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Who supplied these, and are they tested to any industry std?

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Old 27 February 2006, 11:11 AM
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Thats the problem with aftermarket alloys They are generally a load of crap unless you go for the high end stuff like Ronal and the likes who make OEM wheels.
Old 27 February 2006, 11:29 AM
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If they didn't go through a stress relieving process before finishing the natural internal stresses following casting are now showing as "stress cracks" Uneven or too rapid cooling in the mould is often a cause.
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Old 27 February 2006, 11:38 AM
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There are a lot of people who are buying these cheap copies at the moment. Some of you may know how much the importer is paying for them and it really is staggeringly little money for a life or death componant. Cheap copies are cheap for a reason.
Old 27 February 2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker

tomorrow I hope to have some discounted Anthracite Turini's heading my way,fingers crossed
Can you let us know how you get on. I haven't even fitted mine as i don't pick the car up for another few days but this does worry me!!!!

If the wheel is to blame i want my cash back asap!!!

Tony.
Old 27 February 2006, 06:35 PM
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Can someone say where this wheel was purchased from just so people can check there's if it's from the same supplier !

Regards Simpson
Old 27 February 2006, 07:15 PM
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> Best not to as powder coating wheels can weaken them

Powder coating isn't a high temperature process. I'd very surprised if powder coating posted any threat to an alloy component.
Old 27 February 2006, 08:53 PM
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Yeah, I was surprised to hear that this weakens them. How many of us have had alloys blasted? Surely if it does, it must be negligable. Could it be the baking afterwards that weakens them?
Old 27 February 2006, 08:54 PM
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I'd just like to say,that I had a first rate response from both supplier and manufacturer today.

New wheels are on their way and I shall continue to use them.

My cracked wheel is being returned for specialist analysis

....I just hope this is an isolated incident and that I haven't harmed anybody's reputation

Cheers,Jon
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http://www.finishing.com/163/40.shtml

not saying this is gospel, just something i found.

the dog looks a bit worried though

another one to look at http://www.pfonline.com/dp/forums/fo...f_id=17&pub=PF

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Old 28 February 2006, 07:05 PM
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I echo what Jon said above, the response from the supplier has been first rate and has certainly calmed my fears.

Fingers crossed for an isolated incident!

Tony.
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