Should I pay?
18 January 2006, 03:15 PM
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Should I pay?
Got a bit of a dilemma. Sold my old Peugeot 106 GTi at the weekend. I listed it on ebay and it was snapped up straight away by a guy who was quite happy to pay the 'buy it now' price of £3300. He came along to view it, I gave him a very good test drive, he was very happy with it all, paid a deposit then came the next Saturday, paid up and took it away.
Then.......he phones me up later the same day saying the radiator's leaking and it's overheating. He asks if I knew about any problem and I say that at the service in October they noticed a very small radiator leak and I'd put some of that self-sealing stuff in and not had any problems since. I say it might be because it's been sat around for about a month since I got my new scooby.
Anyway he reckons he needs a new radiator, finds one for £60 (he's willing to fit it himself) and then rings me up asking if I'll pay half towards it being as I didn't mention the problem earlier and it happened straight away. I say I'm not going to pay but we were discussing it sensibly and then he just hung up. I've not heard from him since.
He's got no legal comeback I don't think (I put "sold as seen" on the receipt) but it was a shame the whole thing turned a bit sour as it had been such a smooth deal. My girlfriend reckons I should just send him a cheque for £30 just to keep things sweet and to avoid negative feedback on ebay (plus he knows where I live - not especially local to him though). I know on ebay good feedback is EVERYTHING and I've had 100% up to now (60 odd deals) but I'm unlikely to be selling a car on there again - not for at least a couple of years anyway.
Any thoughts??
Then.......he phones me up later the same day saying the radiator's leaking and it's overheating. He asks if I knew about any problem and I say that at the service in October they noticed a very small radiator leak and I'd put some of that self-sealing stuff in and not had any problems since. I say it might be because it's been sat around for about a month since I got my new scooby.
Anyway he reckons he needs a new radiator, finds one for £60 (he's willing to fit it himself) and then rings me up asking if I'll pay half towards it being as I didn't mention the problem earlier and it happened straight away. I say I'm not going to pay but we were discussing it sensibly and then he just hung up. I've not heard from him since.
He's got no legal comeback I don't think (I put "sold as seen" on the receipt) but it was a shame the whole thing turned a bit sour as it had been such a smooth deal. My girlfriend reckons I should just send him a cheque for £30 just to keep things sweet and to avoid negative feedback on ebay (plus he knows where I live - not especially local to him though). I know on ebay good feedback is EVERYTHING and I've had 100% up to now (60 odd deals) but I'm unlikely to be selling a car on there again - not for at least a couple of years anyway.
Any thoughts??
18 January 2006, 03:18 PM
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be careful tho...even tho u hav said sold as seen u didnt put any problems up on the orig advertisement therefore leading to false advertising
he could have some sort of case that way sry to say
he could have some sort of case that way sry to say
18 January 2006, 03:20 PM
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Personally, sounds like you were blessed by getting your set asking price for your car but here's the bite - you knew there was a defective radiator - so £60 - not so bad to do the right thing...I'd personally pay the entire £60 and be glad he's fitting it F.O.C...
Alternatively, If you were on the recieving end of similar treatment (your next car purchase perhaps?) - Would you feel fairly treated ?
sorry, if it's not the answer you were looking for....
All the best
Alternatively, If you were on the recieving end of similar treatment (your next car purchase perhaps?) - Would you feel fairly treated ?
sorry, if it's not the answer you were looking for....
All the best
18 January 2006, 03:28 PM
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Agreed, give him the £30 towards the new part.
Being of a suspicous nature, I'd get it in writing to him that this is a gesture of goodwill, and that this problem was the only one you were aware of when the car was sold; otherwise he might try and get you for any other repairs he might feel need doing...
Being of a suspicous nature, I'd get it in writing to him that this is a gesture of goodwill, and that this problem was the only one you were aware of when the car was sold; otherwise he might try and get you for any other repairs he might feel need doing...
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18 January 2006, 03:29 PM
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Call him and agree to send him £30. I think in the back of your mind you knew the leak could return at anytime. correct me if i'm wrong?
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18 January 2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
Agreed, give him the £30 towards the new part.
Being of a suspicous nature, I'd get it in writing that this is a gesture of goodwill, and that this problem was the only one you were aware of when the car was sold; otherwise he might try and get you for any other repairs he might feel need doing...
Being of a suspicous nature, I'd get it in writing that this is a gesture of goodwill, and that this problem was the only one you were aware of when the car was sold; otherwise he might try and get you for any other repairs he might feel need doing...
18 January 2006, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GrahamG
Call him and agree to send him £30. I think in the back of your mind you knew the leak could return at anytime. correct me if i'm wrong?
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However, I will send him the £30 together with a letter making sure he doesn't ask for any more.
Thanks for the advice.
18 January 2006, 04:52 PM
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he prob only found this leak from testing its top speed for about 20miles on the way home.
But if it was pointed out to u, and if he asked is there any probs, then its false advertisment. meet up go for a pint n give him £30 keep this nice, n u get a excuse 4 a drive n a pint
But if it was pointed out to u, and if he asked is there any probs, then its false advertisment. meet up go for a pint n give him £30 keep this nice, n u get a excuse 4 a drive n a pint
18 January 2006, 05:31 PM
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Considering the £30 is less than 1% of the price you sold the car for, and the buyer seems to be being ok about it all ( most Ebay buyers immediately get up their ***** and start threatening Crown Court or visits from the SAS ) I'd give him the money.
In fact, as he hast said 'I'm going to a dealer for a brand new rad etc...' and is saving more money fitting it himself, I'd send him the £60 just to be fair - after all - you did know the rad had recently leaked and you'd bodged it with filler and didnt mention it when selling ;0)
In fact, as he hast said 'I'm going to a dealer for a brand new rad etc...' and is saving more money fitting it himself, I'd send him the £60 just to be fair - after all - you did know the rad had recently leaked and you'd bodged it with filler and didnt mention it when selling ;0)
18 January 2006, 05:54 PM
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Legally, you don't have to pay unless you misrepresented the car ("oh, its got no faults I know about" sort of thing).
However, I think I would have covered the £30 and felt good about it.
However, I think I would have covered the £30 and felt good about it.
18 January 2006, 06:17 PM
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think you should send him the 60 quid tbh. lets face it you didnt expect to get the buy it now price anyway. may help you to sleep better
18 January 2006, 08:20 PM
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I would pay the man his 30 quid but point out thats all he's getting otherwise you might get a phone call in a month to tell you the near side front tyre has gone flat and what you going to do about it 
18 January 2006, 08:41 PM
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£30 is very cheap for peace of mind .... he will leave excellent feedback.
Just send it with a covering note saying it is purely a goodwill gesture as the fault developed in a short space of time, although you thought you had cured the problem permanently.
He 'could' be brewing in his mind and come around with his mates
£30 is soooooooo cheap to sleep easy at night, it's also the 'right' thing to do.
Just do it ..
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Just send it with a covering note saying it is purely a goodwill gesture as the fault developed in a short space of time, although you thought you had cured the problem permanently.
He 'could' be brewing in his mind and come around with his mates
£30 is soooooooo cheap to sleep easy at night, it's also the 'right' thing to do.
Just do it ..
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18 January 2006, 08:47 PM
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id just leave it be ! its a used car. sold as seen ! basically tough.
i sold a vectra gsi last year, perfect car until a week after i sold it and some radiator thing packed up and cost the bloke £1100 repair ! i genuinly didnt know anything was up with the car.
but as alll me mates said "lifes a bitch" and yes a felt sorry and guilty, but it wasnt my car or my problem !
i sold a vectra gsi last year, perfect car until a week after i sold it and some radiator thing packed up and cost the bloke £1100 repair ! i genuinly didnt know anything was up with the car.
but as alll me mates said "lifes a bitch" and yes a felt sorry and guilty, but it wasnt my car or my problem !
19 January 2006, 08:22 AM
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OK, I've text him to say I'll send him the £30 and have put it in the post with a letter basically saying he won't get any more. It's a fair compromise I think.
Anyway it all seems tickety boo, he was very appreciative of the offer and says he'll leave positive feedback when the cheque arrives. Also he says that he didn't hang up the phone on Sunday, he ran out of credit.
Thanks for the advice folks.
Anyway it all seems tickety boo, he was very appreciative of the offer and says he'll leave positive feedback when the cheque arrives. Also he says that he didn't hang up the phone on Sunday, he ran out of credit.
Thanks for the advice folks.
