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Old 26 October 2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Are exploded diagrams of Impreza mechanicals available?

I'm trying to get to the bottom of which part I need to replace in order to stop the drive shaft from leaking. I've spent 2 months waiting for my local garage to sort it out without success. And I can't much of an answer anywhere else.

What I really need is an exloded diagram of the front transmission/drive shaft assembly. This will give me a better idea of what is actually in there and hopefully help diagnose which part needs replacing. It may just be a case of replacing the shaft but don't want to buy parts and then have them fitted to find out there are wrong.

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Old 26 October 2005, 12:52 PM
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new age bug eye or classic,

i havea haynes manual showing the classic / legay running gear...

i,m surprised the main dealer will have a fiche or similar showing same.


pm me if you want a scan

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The dealer should have full diagrams for every bit of the Impreza old or new. I have a couple, but just bits 'n pieces.

The tech manuals look like this:-

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Its for a classic. The closet Subaru dealer is about 2 hours away. The place I usually go to are respected specialists but the first part they ordered was wrong and since then I ring them, they say we'll get back to you and they don't - this has been going on since late August. I can't believe they are just waiting for the right part to turn up.

And to be honest if it is just a case of replacing the shaft, me and a friend will be able to do the job a couple of hours tops. Its really frustrating being out in the sticks with these cars!!!
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Its for a classic. The closet Subaru dealer is about 2 hours away. The place I usually go to are respected specialists but the first part they ordered was wrong and since then I ring them, they say we'll get back to you and they don't - this has been going on since late August. I can't believe they are just waiting for the right part to turn up.

And to be honest if it is just a case of replacing the shaft, me and a friend will be able to do the job a couple of hours tops. Its really frustrating being out in the sticks with these cars!!!
How about getting them to fax or email you the pics, a quick phone call to them would sort that
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Just out of interest, is it leaking where the drive shaft enters the gearbox?
Like this?

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If it's the seal that's gone in the gearbox where the shaft goes in (like pic above), bear in mind that the seals are handed left and right and have two different part numbers, so you'll need to order the correct one.

If it is that seal, then it's very easy and quick to replace.

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This is an exploded view of a newage impreza driveshaft assembly (See page labelled as (DS-6).

It's not specifically for a classic but maybe of some use to you?

You'll need adobe acrobat reader to view it I think.



http://206.13.93.15/STi_Stuff/STi_Ma...escription.pdf
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Originally Posted by AlanG
If it's the seal that's gone in the gearbox where the shaft goes in (like pic above), bear in mind that the seals are handed left and right and have two different part numbers, so you'll need to order the correct one.

If it is that seal, then it's very easy and quick to replace.
I may have to do this very job soon myself - any tips?

Does the gearbox oil have to be drained out first?

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Old 26 October 2005, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Markyboy uk
I may have to do this very job soon myself - any tips?

Does the gearbox oil have to be drained out first?

Mark.
Likewise, it's not been repaired yet.

Off to Scoobyclinic for a downpipe on Friday, gonna try and pick the fella's brains if I can
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Originally Posted by scooby_matt
Just out of interest, is it leaking where the drive shaft enters the gearbox?
Like this?

Pretty sure thats it, although the grease from mine looks much darker.

I was told that this was a fault with the inner drive shaft - not a seal. I'm having a new back box fitted this afternoon so while its up I'll take a pic but I'm pretty sure its the same fault as the pic above.

Really appreciate the help here, been driving me spare getting it sorted.
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Originally Posted by Markyboy uk
I may have to do this very job soon myself - any tips?

Does the gearbox oil have to be drained out first?

Mark.
I'll check again but I don't think the 'box oil has gone down on my car. I change it every 10K ish or very year so it shouldn't be that dark. On mine it just seems too thick to be 'box oil. I first noticed it when changing brake discs and I had big dollops of the stuff on the undercowl. Its so dark and thick I assumed it to be CV grease from the boot but its coming from the joint/case point.
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Originally Posted by EddScott
I'll check again but I don't think the 'box oil has gone down on my car. I change it every 10K ish or very year so it shouldn't be that dark. On mine it just seems too thick to be 'box oil. I first noticed it when changing brake discs and I had big dollops of the stuff on the undercowl. Its so dark and thick I assumed it to be CV grease from the boot but its coming from the joint/case point.
This is exactly the same as mine. I'm hoping it's just the driveshaft seal that need replacing. I have been told it may just be a case that the grease that was used wasnt up to taking the heat caused by the exhaust, and turns runny. If it's this, then it's a case off re-filling it (whatever holds the grease - I'm no mechanic) with some different grease that you get from the dealer that has a higher melting point.

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Is that drivers side? If so its the same side as mine. When it was serviced they said we can re-pack it but it will all come out again. What I don't get is where its actually coming from if not the gearbox? How does the CV grease get there?

Don't think the seals are much and I believe API will do 2nd hand or recon shafts for just over a £100. Might be worth changing the lot whilst its apart and go from there.
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Yeah. it's the driver's side, the passenger side is bone dry. The car's a MY00 uk...from what i gather, this fault is common on this year.
I don't know how the driveshaft system works. I can't figure it out either, I just don't want to throw money at something, then have to do something else after a while to sort it out again. Like I say, i'll ask the guys at Scoobyclinic tomorrow and see what they say.
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I asked the fellas at Scoobyclinic earlier and they said it doesn't look too serious at the moment.
I was advised to look for signs like the steering clunking at full lock.
I aint got this at the moment as far as i can tell, so i'm just gunna clean it and keep my eye on it, then take it from there. It's likely to be a new driveshaft in the end though
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Originally Posted by Markyboy uk
I may have to do this very job soon myself - any tips?

Does the gearbox oil have to be drained out first?

Mark.
I don't think i drained mine when i did it, was a couple of years ago. Mark where the cover is in relation to the box so that you tighten it back up to the same position.
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http://www.saxonfields.freeserve.co.uk/


Click on the workshop manual you need.
It can take some time to down load even with broadband,be patient.

Everything you need.
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Originally Posted by scooby_matt
I asked the fellas at Scoobyclinic earlier and they said it doesn't look too serious at the moment.
I was advised to look for signs like the steering clunking at full lock.
I aint got this at the moment as far as i can tell, so i'm just gunna clean it and keep my eye on it, then take it from there. It's likely to be a new driveshaft in the end though
Did they say what part was actually causing the leak? I was told that once the grease/oil has completely gone, the shaft will begin to heat up through lack of lubrication.

Clunking at full lock would indicate a dodgy UJ (I assume) but its not the UJ thats at fault here. I would have said its more likely once things start heating up it will drone while in motion.

Got a sneaky feeling I can hear it but that might just be the usual "Please god, don't let it break" mantra of scoob ownership
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They seemed to think it's the grease from the CV joint that gets forced up through the driveshaft and out at the other end (nearest the gearbox).
On the noise point, I've got a noise that sounds similar to a brake rubbing, very quiet but definately there. I noticed it once i'd seen the grease problem, so don't know if it's me thinking the worst or not.
I think it needs looking into just to make sure if nothing else
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