mrjud

ok simple for some i'm gonna be having a apexi power fc soon.

my question is the hand held controller what benifits do you get from this.
my problem is everyone says you can adjust everything from inside your car.
adjust what exactly why have someone map it if then your left with a controller to **** it all up with.thats if you have a go let alone some tw@t sat next to you that has a fiddle whilst your paying for petrol.
Or does it show figures and adjust the boost
would be grate for your input people who already have one
cheers
graham

GC8

Thats probably a question better directed towards an experienced mapper; Andy Forrest or Paul/Zen will be able to tell you exactly what the craic is. I havent met anyone with a Commander who regrets paying the extra £80 odd; Ive spoken to a couple of people who wish theyd included it though...

Simon

mrjud

oh i will be getting one just wanted to know what it did

P1 SUB

i use mine so i can keep an eye on whats going on, you can use it as multiple gauges ie Boost pressure, Air temp, Knock and Injector Duty(you can monitor more thats just the ones i watch). I got Andy to lock mine so people couldnt mess with the map

flat4_ire

andy set mine so i could change from 4 diff boost settings, other than that man i just use it for monitoring everything, dont mess with it

P1 SUB

Yeah thats the only part of the map thats open to change on mine, everything else is locked.

Jay m A

iTrader: (2)

Its a good tool. As mentioned earlier there are about 8 or more parameters you can monitor at one time, remembers max readings etc. It even has a graph function so you can check boost vs rpm, with a pause button so you don't have to look at it real time.

You can change between 4 different boost settings, or set rev limit to 3000rpm valet mode or 500rpm not getting far if stolen mode.

Also has a sensor monitor section so you can check all sensors if something feels amiss.

Its a good tool, and noone can play with it if the key is out of the ignition

leonpoole

Its good if you ever take it anywhere for work and you dont trust the people or think they might give your car some stick once your gone because you can make that imposible i.e lower the rev limit to 3000rpm or lower the boost so its barely there

leonpoole

But on the other hand you could very easy blow your engine up if you want to feel what 3 bar of boost feels like

highlander68k

With the commander you can:

Monitor (max of 8 at any time) -
Injector Duty Cycle
Ignition Timing
RPM
Speed
Boost
Knock
Water Temperature
Intake Air Temp
Battery Voltage

You can view them as a rolling graph and record 30 seconds of it. You can also display peak values (useful sometimes). You can also view the 20x20 grid of the load and rpm cells to determine what area of the map you are in. This has a ghost function which isn't that easy to view (IMO).

You can alter
Ignition timing
Fuelling
Injector size percentages and delays
Boost
Accelleration enrichment
Water temperature correction (cold starts)
Idle
Rev Limit
Fuel cut settings

IMO the commander is a handy little gadget. The only problem for some is not being able to unplug it when not in use - it plugs directly into the ECU. It can be useful for identifying mishaps or suspected knock etc as the peak hold will retain the highest value for you.

As for your mates touching it when you get petrol - you can't do a thing when the ignition is switched off.

leonpoole

Apparently you can get a connection that allows you to disconect it without pulling it out of the ecu. I think its some sort of connector similar to what a P.C uses.

flat4_ire

jaysus are u still talking!

leonpoole

Sorry ill shut up

flat4_ire

good man, getting the type r rolling roaded next saturday by the way, lets see if andy has done a but of magic to my baby, still tinkin of sellin her for a while

LegacySTi

iTrader: (13)

Where you based lad???

flat4_ire

good old carlow, heading to westward next sat for rolling road day. whats the craic with ya

LegacySTi

iTrader: (13)

So how you find fat mac lad??????????????

flat4_ire

never had any doings with him, havent heard great things thought, not many lads i would trust with my subaru hence why i got Andy F to do my Apexi Power FC, anything else i done myself, u have a legacy? u from ballymun in the sun??

highlander68k

What are you expecting to see from the RR results?

I've seen cars that are mapped by Andy (and others) that aren't RR shootout winners, but they leave cars that are, standing.

flat4_ire

well i think i should be seeing 310bhp anyway man if adequate cooling is available, IE: a decent fan for the TMIC! its running on 100 ron fuel with a full exhaust system with headers mapped by Andy F @ 1.35bar,actually if its not putting out 310bhp its a fecking joke!!

Welloilbeefhooked

iTrader: (3)

I have my commander custom mounted in a Din slot in my dash pod. It has the next button routed through a hdden switch to stop pillocks from messing with it. I dont recommend desoldering the screen though, its a pain in the ***.

I use it for changing boost settings, global retard of the ignition for lower octane fuel and monitoring stuff.

flat4_ire

well fair play to ya man