One for the anal oil changers...
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One for the **** oil changers...
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Just done an oil change on the scoob after picking up some silkolene from opie at JAE. After much consideration and reading of threads, I decided I better not risk anything for the sake of a few minutes extra work. With this in mind, I pre-filled the oil filter (only 15minutes early Mr. Lewis), and located the crank sensor so I could turn her over first. Oil wise I asked oilman and took advice off here and went for a 15w-50 ester based oil.
Everything it seemed was tickety-boo. I found you don't need to even jack the car up BTW - everything is easy to reach from the front.
I changed the oil and filter, turned her over for a few seconds, let her settle, turned her over again, then checked the oil. Topped up a smidge, reconnected crank sensor, and took her round the block carefully. Rechecked, then took her out round town.
Everything seemed ok, up to temp, so I gave it a little bit on the way into the sticks. 7500rpm in 1st, 2nd, 3rd... when suddenly... A big thump and a clattery knock begins!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG???????????????????????
It definitely sounded like a big-end failure - it was much more apparent on light throttle. I was almost in tears I can tell you!! I even followed the moderate **** process!! I really thought God was laughing at me.
In a panic I creep to my mate's house for a 2nd opinion. He concurred, although he pointed out my exhaust had started blowing a bit.
The next day, we had a look under the car (possibly to try and ignore the bottom end problems lol) to try and fix the exhaust. And what did we find? The centre box had slipped on its joint to the downpipe (it's a sleeve aftermarket jobbie), until the centre box was touching the prop carrier!!! The noise was the box knocking against the carrier!!!!!! RESULT!!!! (albeit a d'oh one )
Anyway, just thought some of you might find this a bit amusing, and I needed to share the love with the SN brothers and sisters on my happy escape!!
Just done an oil change on the scoob after picking up some silkolene from opie at JAE. After much consideration and reading of threads, I decided I better not risk anything for the sake of a few minutes extra work. With this in mind, I pre-filled the oil filter (only 15minutes early Mr. Lewis), and located the crank sensor so I could turn her over first. Oil wise I asked oilman and took advice off here and went for a 15w-50 ester based oil.
Everything it seemed was tickety-boo. I found you don't need to even jack the car up BTW - everything is easy to reach from the front.
I changed the oil and filter, turned her over for a few seconds, let her settle, turned her over again, then checked the oil. Topped up a smidge, reconnected crank sensor, and took her round the block carefully. Rechecked, then took her out round town.
Everything seemed ok, up to temp, so I gave it a little bit on the way into the sticks. 7500rpm in 1st, 2nd, 3rd... when suddenly... A big thump and a clattery knock begins!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG???????????????????????
It definitely sounded like a big-end failure - it was much more apparent on light throttle. I was almost in tears I can tell you!! I even followed the moderate **** process!! I really thought God was laughing at me.
In a panic I creep to my mate's house for a 2nd opinion. He concurred, although he pointed out my exhaust had started blowing a bit.
The next day, we had a look under the car (possibly to try and ignore the bottom end problems lol) to try and fix the exhaust. And what did we find? The centre box had slipped on its joint to the downpipe (it's a sleeve aftermarket jobbie), until the centre box was touching the prop carrier!!! The noise was the box knocking against the carrier!!!!!! RESULT!!!! (albeit a d'oh one )
Anyway, just thought some of you might find this a bit amusing, and I needed to share the love with the SN brothers and sisters on my happy escape!!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo............. ...... *
NOT ANOTHER OIL CHANGING THREAD!!!!!!!???????
WE HAVE AN 8 PAGER RUNNING ALREADY ABOUT OIL!!!!
PSLEWIS will HAVE to make a comment about this!!
For info: I recently changed my own oil. Yes I used Mobil 1 but I never pre filled the oil filter and did not crank the engine over first! Still running 1100 miles later!
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NOT ANOTHER OIL CHANGING THREAD!!!!!!!???????
WE HAVE AN 8 PAGER RUNNING ALREADY ABOUT OIL!!!!
PSLEWIS will HAVE to make a comment about this!!
For info: I recently changed my own oil. Yes I used Mobil 1 but I never pre filled the oil filter and did not crank the engine over first! Still running 1100 miles later!
Cheers
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why would a car manufacturer make it so difficult for the customer to carry out basic car maintenance? Are peoplepn here making it out to be a mystical complicated thing to change oil. or is it really that difficult.
Considering I am getting my first scooby today!
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Considering I am getting my first scooby today!
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You managed to remove the undertray without lifting the car??? - how skinny are you??
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Originally Posted by NEWBIEDOO
why would a car manufacturer make it so difficult for the customer to carry out basic car maintenance? Are peoplepn here making it out to be a mystical complicated thing to change oil. or is it really that difficult.
Considering I am getting my first scooby today!
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Considering I am getting my first scooby today!
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Originally Posted by TonyFlow
Who said the undertray is on the car (it isn't on mine) - Took it off to improve flow through engine bay!
I did think there may not be a tray but got a sneaky feeling the guy has not been under the car before so maybe did'nt quite know what to expect? If there was no tray, he probably now knows there should have been one!
Tath - Was there a tray?
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Some of the crap on here really is ****. Car was due its 67500 mile service last month, got Mobile 1 oil, new oil filter and my bro (subaru mechanic) changed it for me in 20 mins. No fecking about with crank sensors, no **** priming. Just change the bloody stuff!!
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Originally Posted by dmc1980
Some of the crap on here really is ****. Car was due its 67500 mile service last month, got Mobile 1 oil, new oil filter and my bro (subaru mechanic) changed it for me in 20 mins. No fecking about with crank sensors, no **** priming. Just change the bloody stuff!!
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PS You would pay the dealership your bro works for around £80-90 per hour!! Mmmm!
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Originally Posted by JohnD
There is NOTHING difficult or scary about changing the oil and filter or most of the other servicing tasks for that matter. Everything is quite easy for the average DIY'er up to perhaps clutch or cambelt change. I suppose if you've never tackled such servicing tasks before, it might seem a bit daunting but the Impreza poses no real problems - plug change is a bit more involved than the average car but still not difficult.
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I have recently bought some new plugs...Would REALLY like to know how the hell I am going to change them....Need to have the hands of a 6 yr old. For me and my bloody great hands, could be a bit of a problem!!!
Passenger side: remove washer bottle and you should get plenty of access.
Practice makes perfect.
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Originally Posted by Tall Paul
I have recently bought some new plugs...Would REALLY like to know how the hell I am going to change them....Need to have the hands of a 6 yr old. For me and my bloody great hands, could be a bit of a problem!!!
It's a fiddly job and needs some removal of underbonnet items but there's nothing difficult, just takes longer than the average (conventional) car.
On the passender side remove the washer bottle - drain it first if possible as you need to disconnect the bottom tube. Hey presto! the plugs! On the drivers side you need to remove the air filter box - two bolts at the bottom - a socket with a long extension helps here. (you might as well check the air filter element while it's out?) You do need extension pieces on the plug socket to get to the plugs. As long as you have the tools it's OK!
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Originally Posted by JohnD
I have to say that anyone who DOESN'T prime the filter is ****! It doesn't even take ANY time - you do it while the old oil is draining for Gods sake! Why wouldn't you do it? trying to prove a point? Don't forget it's not just the oil in the filter that has to be replaced when you start the engine, it's the oil above the filter that has been drained as well. When you start the engine this combined volume of air will be compressed and pushed through the bearings ahead of the fresh oil itself. Sure, a good oil will have the film strength to protect the bearings for a few seconds but why not cut that few seconds down to the absolute minimum!
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PS You would pay the dealership your bro works for around £80-90 per hour!! Mmmm!
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PS You would pay the dealership your bro works for around £80-90 per hour!! Mmmm!
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Originally Posted by JohnD
You managed to remove the undertray without lifting the car??? - how skinny are you??
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Originally Posted by tath
undertray???? seriously?!
The only real reason to remove it other than at servicing time is to allow better cooling to the sump on trackdays. It's there to protect the engine/sump/exhaust etc and IMHO should be in place for road use.
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Originally Posted by JohnD
There should be an undertray that goes from the front crossmember to the rear of the engine, where the gearbox starts, and another one a bit further back covering the rear of the gearbox. Design depends on the model year.
The only real reason to remove it other than at servicing time is to allow better cooling to the sump on trackdays. It's there to protect the engine/sump/exhaust etc and IMHO should be in place for road use.
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The only real reason to remove it other than at servicing time is to allow better cooling to the sump on trackdays. It's there to protect the engine/sump/exhaust etc and IMHO should be in place for road use.
JohnD
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Originally Posted by tath
i've got an RA, and two of my mates have them as well and we have a total of zero undertrays between us ...
Can other RA owners confirm there is no tray?
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