The Tanks are cleared to GO...
12 September 2000, 12:26 AM
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My Wife. Fountain of all wisdom.
I can also tell you that one Fuel Tanker (not the little green ones with rather estute gun barrels on) was permissined by the guys down there to go through - why?
Because it's for... yes you guessed it - HRM.
Aye Aye Aye....
Adeos Muchacos.
(Edited without speach impediment for laughters sake for FOSTERS)
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I can also tell you that one Fuel Tanker (not the little green ones with rather estute gun barrels on) was permissined by the guys down there to go through - why?
Because it's for... yes you guessed it - HRM.
Aye Aye Aye....
Adeos Muchacos.
(Edited without speach impediment for laughters sake for FOSTERS)
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12 September 2000, 12:39 AM
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"Late on Monday the Privy Council and the Queen approved the use by the government of emergency powers to ensure the flow of fuel to "priority users" such as health services, schools and public transport."
If the government do this they have signed there death warrant!!
It was stated quite clearly that fuel tankers bound for emergency services will not be blockaded. The transport unions have ensured that fuel tankers are getting to hospitals etc. The fuel companies are not telling it how it is. They support this blockade as they have been making very little money in the last few years from fuel, they make far more profit from the sale of goods in the shops, hence all these snacks and magazines we are bombarded with when we use the petrol stations.
The issue for non-emergency services being disrupted is down to the fear that staff will be unable to get to work, not that the services themselves will run dry.
This is going to get nasty very soon!!
We don't live in a democracy and the government does not work for us, the entire political system in the UK is corrupt. MP's dont represent us, they do what they are told by the leader of there party, thats why when one or two MP's go against the party line it is a big issue in the news and they effectively get fired. Think about it!!!
If the government do this they have signed there death warrant!!
It was stated quite clearly that fuel tankers bound for emergency services will not be blockaded. The transport unions have ensured that fuel tankers are getting to hospitals etc. The fuel companies are not telling it how it is. They support this blockade as they have been making very little money in the last few years from fuel, they make far more profit from the sale of goods in the shops, hence all these snacks and magazines we are bombarded with when we use the petrol stations.
The issue for non-emergency services being disrupted is down to the fear that staff will be unable to get to work, not that the services themselves will run dry.
This is going to get nasty very soon!!
We don't live in a democracy and the government does not work for us, the entire political system in the UK is corrupt. MP's dont represent us, they do what they are told by the leader of there party, thats why when one or two MP's go against the party line it is a big issue in the news and they effectively get fired. Think about it!!!
12 September 2000, 12:39 AM
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It's just you ... (not directed at john sorry!)
BBC News quote
"He has been joined at Downing Street by senior ministers, including Home Secretary Jack Straw and Trade and Industry Secretary Stephen Byers, to discuss whether to invoke emergency powers to tackle the crisis. "
Yeah anyway.
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BBC News quote
"He has been joined at Downing Street by senior ministers, including Home Secretary Jack Straw and Trade and Industry Secretary Stephen Byers, to discuss whether to invoke emergency powers to tackle the crisis. "
Yeah anyway.
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12 September 2000, 12:55 AM
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It sounds extreemly heavy.
don't really understand why the request would have been made let alone granted.
Granted by none other than our own Queen to boot.
The mad keep getting madder I guess.
Is there really anywhere better than our own UK though?
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don't really understand why the request would have been made let alone granted.
Granted by none other than our own Queen to boot.
The mad keep getting madder I guess.
Is there really anywhere better than our own UK though?
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12 September 2000, 11:48 AM
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OKOK - No I'm not a scooby owner - an alomost but not quite (and with this new shape muppet truck they've come up with I doub't I will be either..)
ANYWAY.. HRM has cleared butt boy to use military equipment to clear the way...
Doen't that turn Labour into whaddyacallit? A Dictatorous Government?
Oi! Shift it or we will !!
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Phoenix.
ANYWAY.. HRM has cleared butt boy to use military equipment to clear the way...
Doen't that turn Labour into whaddyacallit? A Dictatorous Government?
Oi! Shift it or we will !!
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Phoenix.
12 September 2000, 01:46 PM
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The Queen really has no choice in this matter. She MUST act on the advice of her ministers (She would have to sign her own death warrant if 'advised' by the Government)
She has the right to be consulted, the right to encourage and the right to warn.
But that is about it :-(
Craig.
Anyone else getting a sense of 'deja vue' with this and Maggie's Pol Tax Riots. Look what happened to her!!!
She has the right to be consulted, the right to encourage and the right to warn.
But that is about it :-(
Craig.
Anyone else getting a sense of 'deja vue' with this and Maggie's Pol Tax Riots. Look what happened to her!!!
12 September 2000, 02:01 PM
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Craig
Couldn't agree with you more re: poll tax riots - the goverment riding roughshod over public opinion, totally forgetting that they were elected to represent public opinion....
Mr Blair and Johnny 2 Jags will soon be looking for alternative employment.
Couldn't agree with you more re: poll tax riots - the goverment riding roughshod over public opinion, totally forgetting that they were elected to represent public opinion....
Mr Blair and Johnny 2 Jags will soon be looking for alternative employment.
12 September 2000, 02:24 PM
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This is going to get very serious about tea time tonight when the Prime(?) Minister and his advisors(??) make their policy decision known to the UK at large.
If they back down how far do they go? A few pence a litre, more than a few pence, either way they will probably insist on meeting "representatives" of the blockaders for talks before measures are introduced. The talks will take ages and give the Government time to make another u-turn when they have put options in place to deal with any backlash this may cause.
If they don't back down and things are put back to normal by use of the police and military Tony and his cronies will have won a battle they only have to win once. If they win this time they will be able to play the fuel tax card whenever they need to in future knowing they have already fought and won that round in the political world.
Yex
PS: I STILL have not found anyone who voted for this self centred bunch of gobsh1tes
If they back down how far do they go? A few pence a litre, more than a few pence, either way they will probably insist on meeting "representatives" of the blockaders for talks before measures are introduced. The talks will take ages and give the Government time to make another u-turn when they have put options in place to deal with any backlash this may cause.
If they don't back down and things are put back to normal by use of the police and military Tony and his cronies will have won a battle they only have to win once. If they win this time they will be able to play the fuel tax card whenever they need to in future knowing they have already fought and won that round in the political world.
Yex
PS: I STILL have not found anyone who voted for this self centred bunch of gobsh1tes
12 September 2000, 02:27 PM
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Makes you wonder about the purpose of your car though..
I mean - the normall trip to your mates, or just an evening runabout becomes a sinful activity.
I was feeling guilty just driving to the actual petrol station last night - drove in one and drove staright back out again with three or four other cars at the same time. All the drivers we're hiding their heads like they'd just been caught doing something dodgy... weird. I saw a couple of people fighting over who was gonna get the ONE solitary pump first at another station .. Somebody's got a lot to answer for.
POLL TAX riots - not even close to this, imagine paying your hard earned money to buy your motor and it being put off the road by this crazy fuel crisis and price hike before you've had time to make a payment on the damn thing.
The whole transport issue seems to be a complete faux pas for Labour.
How many times has Petrol gone up since they came into power (can anyone tell me?)
Plus the importing issue - even Sir R B. is having a little war of his own there.
The padestrianisation of London (albeit planning)and other suburban areas..
The proposed 25% hike in insurance next year.
Speed cameras increasing faster than queues at BP filling hole on a monday afternoon.
Enforced Parking zones just popping up for the f**k of it. (Anyone from Clapham to the now F-ooting (tooting joke sorry!)please let me hear ya Holla!!)
Increased Tax on bigger engines given to us as if we actually craved for it..
N.E.W. L.A.B.O.U.R.
Narcissistic Eclectic Wan***s club.(Like Automobiles? Bugger Off U Retards!)
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I mean - the normall trip to your mates, or just an evening runabout becomes a sinful activity.
I was feeling guilty just driving to the actual petrol station last night - drove in one and drove staright back out again with three or four other cars at the same time. All the drivers we're hiding their heads like they'd just been caught doing something dodgy... weird. I saw a couple of people fighting over who was gonna get the ONE solitary pump first at another station .. Somebody's got a lot to answer for.
POLL TAX riots - not even close to this, imagine paying your hard earned money to buy your motor and it being put off the road by this crazy fuel crisis and price hike before you've had time to make a payment on the damn thing.
The whole transport issue seems to be a complete faux pas for Labour.
How many times has Petrol gone up since they came into power (can anyone tell me?)
Plus the importing issue - even Sir R B. is having a little war of his own there.
The padestrianisation of London (albeit planning)and other suburban areas..
The proposed 25% hike in insurance next year.
Speed cameras increasing faster than queues at BP filling hole on a monday afternoon.
Enforced Parking zones just popping up for the f**k of it. (Anyone from Clapham to the now F-ooting (tooting joke sorry!)please let me hear ya Holla!!)
Increased Tax on bigger engines given to us as if we actually craved for it..
N.E.W. L.A.B.O.U.R.
Narcissistic Eclectic Wan***s club.(Like Automobiles? Bugger Off U Retards!)
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12 September 2000, 02:38 PM
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The BBC website is saying that they can afford to cut the duty by 8p per litre without having any effect on their spending committments.
This is possible due to the increase in fuel price that has occured since the budget.
Craig.
This is possible due to the increase in fuel price that has occured since the budget.
Craig.
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I remember reading that petrol had risen by almost 40% since Labour came to power.
It's a nice change to see us (as a nation) standing up for ourselves and not just moaning about something.
The government can't ignore this sort of action - they have to be seen to do something if 97% of the population think that petrol is too high in price. I wonder who the other 3% are? MPs?
12 September 2000, 04:24 PM
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AWD; probably Green bicycling vegetarian pacifist save the trees eat lentils long heared unshaven sandle wearing SCUM!
You know the type, they think their opinion is worth so much more than anyone elses!
In fact 3%, it's probably only those that ride those silly lie-down bicycle thingies
You know the type, they think their opinion is worth so much more than anyone elses!
In fact 3%, it's probably only those that ride those silly lie-down bicycle thingies
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The thing that really annoys me is that Labour initially said that the purpose of fuel duty was to protect the environment. (If that's the case, should not airlines be targetted also? and how come there is no duty on airline fuel?)
Then, it was to fund public transport. Now it is to fund the NHS/Education.
Labour have been incredibly dishonest on this whole issue.
Craig.
Then, it was to fund public transport. Now it is to fund the NHS/Education.
Labour have been incredibly dishonest on this whole issue.
Craig.
12 September 2000, 04:37 PM
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CharlieWhiskey - I know the exact type you mean. The Open University lecturer type (like the character Griff Rhys Jones plays on the Vauxhall adverts).
To quote Mr. Burns (from the Simpsons) talking about one of his (now old) guard dogs: "Atlas is getting old. I remember when he bagged his first hippy. That young man didn't think that it was too groooveee"
On a more serious note, basically the fuel tax rises fund anything and everything except roads and car related things. Instead of getting lottery cash for the *&%^ing Millennium Dome they could have done so much for everyone if they'd reduced the fuel tax.
Rant over.
12 September 2000, 04:48 PM
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KF?
Does your flame suit protect you from Radioactive Man's Plasma Gaze??
Dude - if a facefull of political data is all it takes to silence people, then we have bigger problems facing us than "Doh! The Gas lights on again Marg! Whaddawedonow??".
I've seen it -I've heard it - I've had enough.
With the amount of fuel tax we're paying on a yearly basis - do you not think a couple BILLION quid would easily open a new Casualty or School here and there?
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Does your flame suit protect you from Radioactive Man's Plasma Gaze??
Dude - if a facefull of political data is all it takes to silence people, then we have bigger problems facing us than "Doh! The Gas lights on again Marg! Whaddawedonow??".
I've seen it -I've heard it - I've had enough.
With the amount of fuel tax we're paying on a yearly basis - do you not think a couple BILLION quid would easily open a new Casualty or School here and there?
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I know I said I had the suit on, but...
There seem to be people labouring (ho ho) under the misaprehension that all the price rises in the last couple of months are due to tax, and that the government are solely responsible for the price we pay. Only 2p out of last 19p rises, have been through duty. Obviously fuel has a component of tax too, and the government are probably glad for the crude price tripling, as they get *even more* cash, but them's the facts.
Notice here, I haven't said whether I support the government or not. None of you care what someone you have never met thinks of them anyway, so I didn't think it was relevant.
KF.
There seem to be people labouring (ho ho) under the misaprehension that all the price rises in the last couple of months are due to tax, and that the government are solely responsible for the price we pay. Only 2p out of last 19p rises, have been through duty. Obviously fuel has a component of tax too, and the government are probably glad for the crude price tripling, as they get *even more* cash, but them's the facts.
Notice here, I haven't said whether I support the government or not. None of you care what someone you have never met thinks of them anyway, so I didn't think it was relevant.
KF.
12 September 2000, 05:12 PM
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> Only 2p out of last 19p rises, have been > through duty
Says who? Number 10? It must be right then ;-)
Seriously, though. Why can't the fuel duty simply be a flat amount, i.e. 30p per litre? that way, fluctuations in the price of crude do not affect government budgetting/take AND motorists do not face big increases (in both duty and then VAT) when the price of crude rockets.
>Notice here, I haven't said whether I >support the government or not. None of you >care what someone you have never met thinks >of them anyway, so I didn't think it was >relevant.
Not true. I am always interested to hear an alternative point of view.
Craig.
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Says who? Number 10? It must be right then ;-)
Seriously, though. Why can't the fuel duty simply be a flat amount, i.e. 30p per litre? that way, fluctuations in the price of crude do not affect government budgetting/take AND motorists do not face big increases (in both duty and then VAT) when the price of crude rockets.
>Notice here, I haven't said whether I >support the government or not. None of you >care what someone you have never met thinks >of them anyway, so I didn't think it was >relevant.
Not true. I am always interested to hear an alternative point of view.
Craig.
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I guess (flippent statement),
It matters what everyone's opinion is because without saying anything who's gonna hear you?
The only reason I'm bugging about it now is because fuel tax just seems to be the latest in a long line of financial attacks on motorists. A year ago I could drive from london to see my family in the westcountry for cheaper than a train ticket. Now however it'll cost me £65 - £70 quid. Might not be much to high earners, but come the end of the month average joe's such as myself and I guess 90% of the rest of the country kinda find it a little hard to justify. Paying the extra whack when the cost of a travel card has gone up by the same margin? We also have to pay our council's to park in front of our own homes now. (plus at least one speeding ticket every other journey down south
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I mean geez c'mon - even my seven year old son thinks it's common practise to raise taxes (from £2 to a fiver to wash the car in the last year!! Oh, no wait, it a quid a wheel now too!)
Did the NHS waiting lists automatically get shorter yet?
Do my kids get a GAURANTEED quality education?
Me thinks not.
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It matters what everyone's opinion is because without saying anything who's gonna hear you?
The only reason I'm bugging about it now is because fuel tax just seems to be the latest in a long line of financial attacks on motorists. A year ago I could drive from london to see my family in the westcountry for cheaper than a train ticket. Now however it'll cost me £65 - £70 quid. Might not be much to high earners, but come the end of the month average joe's such as myself and I guess 90% of the rest of the country kinda find it a little hard to justify. Paying the extra whack when the cost of a travel card has gone up by the same margin? We also have to pay our council's to park in front of our own homes now. (plus at least one speeding ticket every other journey down south
)I mean geez c'mon - even my seven year old son thinks it's common practise to raise taxes (from £2 to a fiver to wash the car in the last year!! Oh, no wait, it a quid a wheel now too!)
Did the NHS waiting lists automatically get shorter yet?
Do my kids get a GAURANTEED quality education?
Me thinks not.
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Craig,
I am prepared to be corrected, and am no expert, but I was under the impression that duty was just that. A fixed sum, like the duty on cigarettes is a fixed sum per packet - the same for fuel. Then you have VAT, which is as a percentage on cost.
Here is a break down of costs:
I am prepared to be corrected, and am no expert, but I was under the impression that duty was just that. A fixed sum, like the duty on cigarettes is a fixed sum per packet - the same for fuel. Then you have VAT, which is as a percentage on cost.
Here is a break down of costs: