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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Is anybody on here still seriously considering "investing" in PPP given the latest marketing triumph from Subaru?
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Old May 31, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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wasn't the PPP designed for subaru to pep up the sales of the bug-eyed model? it was a sweetener for them to 'give' away with the cars to get them shifted off the forecourt. perhaps they are doing the same now.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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I don't get this at all - they give away something for nothing and still people bitch and moan.

There's always something newer and better round the corner, get over it! The free PPP is to help shift the remaining stocks of '05 cars before the '06 shape comes out. How else would you ensure they all got sold before the point came where nobody wanted them because they'd rather have the new shape?

If you have a car without PPP and want the performance improvement, go out and buy it. The deal that's available IF you wanted a new car, couldn't matter less.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Ah but people love bitching and moaning, thats why forums like this exist.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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just something.........you got two options with subaru........it always was the 3 years free servicing. but now you can have the free servicing or the ppp. so not really an extra. just an alternative option.plus subaru told me the main reason the option for free ppp came up. is insurance companys are starting to turn theyre back on ppp.so it aint sellin too good............. cheers pete.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Guess that is a no then...

The point I was trying to make is that Subaru seem to be losing sight of their core customer base. Of course manufacturers can do what they like in terms of improvements, price reductions and "special" models and God love them for it but, are they really going to win new customers by offering a 40bhp upgrade on what is already a niche vehicle or are they going to alienate existing often repeat customers. I don't know the stats but I would guess there are more non ppp'd cars out there that might take up say a 50% price reduction in the upgrade, retaining customer loyalty and ultimately leading them into "real" new models like the proposed 2006 2.5 litre models.

You must admit we must be a pretty committed lot as it stands, paying group 20 insurance premiums, running Optimax, suffering envy scratches etc. and then being ignored by the manufacturer as soon as we have bought our cars.

Once upon a time the cars were without peer in terms of all round package, but this is increasingly no longer the case. Mitsubishi, Vauxhall, Renault and soon to be Ford arguably offer more "bang for bucks" than the current Subaru line up (with or without ppp).

Don't get me wrong I am a huge fan of the marque and my current and previous two cars have all been new cars from the same main dealer, but I increasingly feel that this is in spite of the manufacturer, not because of...

Oh well, next stop 2007 STI 2.5 PPP 350 bhp!!

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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And...I have just spoken to a main dealer and they don't think it has made any impact on new car sales so far...so there
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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I'm quite tempted to go for the PPP on my 53 STi.

The annoying thing is that I've only had my car just over 3 months, the price I paid at the dealer (£21k) plus the PPP cost (£2k) means it's only about £3k short of what I could have paid for a brand new model. If I'd have known this was in the pipeline, then I would have held on and had a brand new one

It would be nice if Subaru could offer existing owners the chance to get PPP for a reduced price while the offer is on...
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdUK
I'm quite tempted to go for the PPP on my 53 STi.

The annoying thing is that I've only had my car just over 3 months, the price I paid at the dealer (£21k) plus the PPP cost (£2k) means it's only about £3k short of what I could have paid for a brand new model. If I'd have known this was in the pipeline, then I would have held on and had a brand new one

It would be nice if Subaru could offer existing owners the chance to get PPP for a reduced price while the offer is on...
Thats life. Do you go back and complain to curry's 3 months after you bought a TV that its gone down in price?
You win some you loose some.

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdUK
I'm quite tempted to go for the PPP on my 53 STi.

The annoying thing is that I've only had my car just over 3 months, the price I paid at the dealer (£21k) plus the PPP cost (£2k) means it's only about £3k short of what I could have paid for a brand new model. If I'd have known this was in the pipeline, then I would have held on and had a brand new one

It would be nice if Subaru could offer existing owners the chance to get PPP for a reduced price while the offer is on...
OOh, if you get them to agree let me know - my MY96 could do with a PPP setup
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Do you go back and complain to curry's 3 months after you bought a TV that its gone down in price?
Nope, but then you've got the option of claiming on the house insurance when the children have "accidently shattered the screen with a hammer"
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