Why i have bit the bullet and sold my P1
27 April 2005, 05:41 PM
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Why i have bit the bullet and sold my P1
The time had come. I had grown a little tired of running the P1. Ive had it for 4 years now from new, and although the best all round Impreza i have owned, it was time to say goodbye.
Fed up of reading on here about car jacking, burlgaries, high fuel costs, crap MPG, the shakes about leaving it parked up anywhere, boy racers trying it on etc etc etc etc .
Its a sad day really, i have owned 3 Imprezas in total, covering a time of 7 years. have met some great people on here, as well as w@nkers it must be said
Ill probably pop along to some of the Jap shows this year, but it wont be the same knowing that I havent got the P1 with me
Ive stepped to another level now for a car thats more in keeping with my current thoughts above.
Hope to still use this board as its quite a general bbs now, and scooby ownership isn't essential.
Heres a pic of the p1 replacement
its a Uk spec 22b. I gather there only a few left on the road. See ya around
Fed up of reading on here about car jacking, burlgaries, high fuel costs, crap MPG, the shakes about leaving it parked up anywhere, boy racers trying it on etc etc etc etc .
Its a sad day really, i have owned 3 Imprezas in total, covering a time of 7 years. have met some great people on here, as well as w@nkers it must be said
Ill probably pop along to some of the Jap shows this year, but it wont be the same knowing that I havent got the P1 with me
Ive stepped to another level now for a car thats more in keeping with my current thoughts above.
Hope to still use this board as its quite a general bbs now, and scooby ownership isn't essential.
Heres a pic of the p1 replacement
its a Uk spec 22b. I gather there only a few left on the road. See ya around
27 April 2005, 06:20 PM
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I dont know what local meets i can make it to, but Ill be around for the big Jap meets hopefully.
Comparison wise, I cant comment too much at the moment as Ive only done a few hundred mostly motorway miles. Although the Uk spec have taller gearing, Im getting 115 miles for first half a tank, which is a bit lower than the P1.
The 22b seems a little more nervous on the road, going over painted white lines and cats eyes etc, you have to be careful. The suspension is quite a bit more firmer. The brakes seem to be better than standard P1 brakes, it might just be a feeling, but I thought both cars had the same standard brakes?
The gear throw is a bit shorter than the P1, but i had a smoother change in the P1.
No two ways about which car id rather have. The P1 though, was a more comfortable drive, probably better MPG, a better all rounder due to its less firmer set up, and the foolproof power splits between front and rear. Saying all that,Ive taken to looking in my side mirrors a lot more, if only to see those bulging rear arches. The 22b wins hands down for the simple fact it is a 22b.
Comparison wise, I cant comment too much at the moment as Ive only done a few hundred mostly motorway miles. Although the Uk spec have taller gearing, Im getting 115 miles for first half a tank, which is a bit lower than the P1.
The 22b seems a little more nervous on the road, going over painted white lines and cats eyes etc, you have to be careful. The suspension is quite a bit more firmer. The brakes seem to be better than standard P1 brakes, it might just be a feeling, but I thought both cars had the same standard brakes?
The gear throw is a bit shorter than the P1, but i had a smoother change in the P1.
No two ways about which car id rather have. The P1 though, was a more comfortable drive, probably better MPG, a better all rounder due to its less firmer set up, and the foolproof power splits between front and rear. Saying all that,Ive taken to looking in my side mirrors a lot more, if only to see those bulging rear arches. The 22b wins hands down for the simple fact it is a 22b.
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I dont know what local meets i can make it to, but Ill be around for the big Jap meets hopefully.
Comparison wise, I cant comment too much at the moment as Ive only done a few hundred mostly motorway miles. Although the Uk spec have taller gearing, Im getting 115 miles for first half a tank, which is a bit lower than the P1.
The 22b seems a little more nervous on the road, going over painted white lines and cats eyes etc, you have to be careful. The suspension is quite a bit more firmer. The brakes seem to be better than standard P1 brakes, it might just be a feeling, but I thought both cars had the same standard brakes?
The gear throw is a bit shorter than the P1, but i had a smoother change in the P1.
No two ways about which car id rather have. The P1 though, was a more comfortable drive, probably better MPG, a better all rounder due to its less firmer set up, and the foolproof power splits between front and rear. Saying all that,Ive taken to looking in my side mirrors a lot more, if only to see those bulging rear arches. The 22b wins hands down for the simple fact it is a 22b.
Comparison wise, I cant comment too much at the moment as Ive only done a few hundred mostly motorway miles. Although the Uk spec have taller gearing, Im getting 115 miles for first half a tank, which is a bit lower than the P1.
The 22b seems a little more nervous on the road, going over painted white lines and cats eyes etc, you have to be careful. The suspension is quite a bit more firmer. The brakes seem to be better than standard P1 brakes, it might just be a feeling, but I thought both cars had the same standard brakes?
The gear throw is a bit shorter than the P1, but i had a smoother change in the P1.
No two ways about which car id rather have. The P1 though, was a more comfortable drive, probably better MPG, a better all rounder due to its less firmer set up, and the foolproof power splits between front and rear. Saying all that,Ive taken to looking in my side mirrors a lot more, if only to see those bulging rear arches. The 22b wins hands down for the simple fact it is a 22b.
Has there been much difference in the insurance matey?
27 April 2005, 08:11 PM
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silly questionn time
how would a 22b fair against a new age sti or wr1 or jdm sti etc ?
i.e what do you get for 22 to 24k with a 22b ? and how much were they new ?
any help would be great. currently running a wrx04 ppp(and yes i know its pants compared to the above listed cars)
i am prepared to go back to classic, rather than newage sti etc....im just looking for justification, apart from the 22b`s sexy looks
i just know the the 22b is a 2.2 lump and thats it
also what power /torq is possible with decat and remapp etc?
thanks all, and soz for the newbee questions !
how would a 22b fair against a new age sti or wr1 or jdm sti etc ?
i.e what do you get for 22 to 24k with a 22b ? and how much were they new ?
any help would be great. currently running a wrx04 ppp(and yes i know its pants compared to the above listed cars)
i am prepared to go back to classic, rather than newage sti etc....im just looking for justification, apart from the 22b`s sexy looks
i just know the the 22b is a 2.2 lump and thats it
also what power /torq is possible with decat and remapp etc?
thanks all, and soz for the newbee questions !
27 April 2005, 08:16 PM
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Recently been in a few 22b's running them in....awesome, that look in the side mirroe at those arches....inspiring, gorgeous....oh **** does that person next to me know what I'm driving...
Enjoy, but please don't park it on the road
Enjoy, but please don't park it on the road
27 April 2005, 08:30 PM
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-New they were anywhere between £40k and £50 depending on who you ask. AFAIK IM priced the uk version cheaper by some margin than what grey importers were charging for their imports. Makes a change a UK car being cheaper
-I assume on the road performance wise? Ive never driven a new age impreza so I cant really compare. All i can say is the 22b has wider rear tyres, manual dccd probably stiffer suspension and weighs less. But for ***** out performance Id be a bit wary of ragging the 22b too much simply because of its expense and rarity of parts etc. You can wait a very long time to have it repaired if you ding the flared arches etc.
-22 to 24k would get you a fairly decent 22b from a private seller, probably an import, but uks can be found, they are very rare though and you dont see many for sale. I called this guy and he seemed very genuine indeed, and if I hadnt got this 22b i think Id have got his subject to a report. http://forums.sidc.co.uk/messageview...threadid=35412
-Power is 276 bhp and I *think* there is more torque than the comparable typeRs. Decat and remap is possible, in fact a remap is recommended at least on the imports. A fairly decent Apexi system, mapped by somebody who knows what they are doing will be in the region of £750.
-Performance wise i cant see there being much difference between a 22b and a typeR. There is a large price difference between the two marques however, and I see this as being the rarity of the car rather than extra performance.
-The best bit of advice you will ever hear about buying a 22b is to have it checked out by a qualified inspector. Unfortunatly there are bad ones out there as with any performance car.
-The main difference between a uk and import, was the price, the rear light clusters and the uk had taller gearing.
To answer fully any questions you may have go to www.22b.com.
-I assume on the road performance wise? Ive never driven a new age impreza so I cant really compare. All i can say is the 22b has wider rear tyres, manual dccd probably stiffer suspension and weighs less. But for ***** out performance Id be a bit wary of ragging the 22b too much simply because of its expense and rarity of parts etc. You can wait a very long time to have it repaired if you ding the flared arches etc.
-22 to 24k would get you a fairly decent 22b from a private seller, probably an import, but uks can be found, they are very rare though and you dont see many for sale. I called this guy and he seemed very genuine indeed, and if I hadnt got this 22b i think Id have got his subject to a report. http://forums.sidc.co.uk/messageview...threadid=35412
-Power is 276 bhp and I *think* there is more torque than the comparable typeRs. Decat and remap is possible, in fact a remap is recommended at least on the imports. A fairly decent Apexi system, mapped by somebody who knows what they are doing will be in the region of £750.
-Performance wise i cant see there being much difference between a 22b and a typeR. There is a large price difference between the two marques however, and I see this as being the rarity of the car rather than extra performance.
-The best bit of advice you will ever hear about buying a 22b is to have it checked out by a qualified inspector. Unfortunatly there are bad ones out there as with any performance car.
-The main difference between a uk and import, was the price, the rear light clusters and the uk had taller gearing.
To answer fully any questions you may have go to www.22b.com.
28 April 2005, 02:22 PM
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Well done lad glad to see that you got the best impreza after all, best of luck with it. Hope to see you in England around august. Have not had a scoob for over 18 months now (doing the hippy trail in south east asia) but getting a sti type r in from Japan hopefully within the next few weeks.
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28 April 2005, 03:12 PM
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thought it was going to be a oil burning skoda or bimmer like the other traitor muppets on here i even did a double take and thought you had posted a picture of the p1.
enjoy and look after her.
enjoy and look after her.
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the front tyres are also wider, 8.5 by 17inch wheels and 235s as standard though I have 255s on mine.
Greater low down torque makes the car faster through the gears than a type r with the same gearing, sadly you have the inferior gearing
Brakes are identical apart from colour.
Main difference you will find is on track, you can drive around the outside of normal classics as there is so much more grip and the car is well damped for track use out of the box.
In all honesty, you would have trouble keeping up with a new shape sti equipped with a dccd-a, even with a nigh on 200kg weight advantage. Their mechanical grip is impressive, their tyres are now the same width and they almost have the same track.
combine that with a twin scroll turbo and the fact that the standard torque and power figures are matching if not superceeding the 22B and the on road performance is ominous.
Having said that, when you catch them up at the next set of traffic lights you can sit back in the knowledge that you have the best looking most desirable road going impreza there is.
Greater low down torque makes the car faster through the gears than a type r with the same gearing, sadly you have the inferior gearing
Brakes are identical apart from colour.
Main difference you will find is on track, you can drive around the outside of normal classics as there is so much more grip and the car is well damped for track use out of the box.
In all honesty, you would have trouble keeping up with a new shape sti equipped with a dccd-a, even with a nigh on 200kg weight advantage. Their mechanical grip is impressive, their tyres are now the same width and they almost have the same track.
combine that with a twin scroll turbo and the fact that the standard torque and power figures are matching if not superceeding the 22B and the on road performance is ominous.
Having said that, when you catch them up at the next set of traffic lights you can sit back in the knowledge that you have the best looking most desirable road going impreza there is.
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Originally Posted by Adam M
Having said that, when you catch them up at the next set of traffic lights you can sit back in the knowledge that you have the best looking most desirable road going impreza there is.
