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Old 08 April 2005, 04:02 PM
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I heard some upsetting news yesterday from one of my motorsport friends.

Apparently he had a grade 4 tumour (presumably this is bad?) and was in a very bad way - vegatitive at one point.

Apparently he will be lucky to even drive again, let alone race

That's all I know, so don't ask me for more detail, and please, no disrespectful comments, not a nice topic.
Old 08 April 2005, 04:13 PM
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Sad news
Old 08 April 2005, 04:17 PM
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Thoughts go out to him and his family , he is a world class driver, and is the reason that i have a subaru .
Old 08 April 2005, 04:19 PM
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Hope not. top man he is.
Old 08 April 2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by prelude
Thoughts go out to him and his family , he is a world class driver, and is the reason that i have a subaru .
here here i totally agree top man

mine and my familys thoughts are with him and his family
Old 08 April 2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
I heard some upsetting news yesterday from one of my motorsport friends.

Apparently he had a grade 4 tumour (presumably this is bad?)
yup

mate had a grade 4 and sadly lost the fight (inevitably i understand)

but saying that, you've only got to look at lance armstrong to see that all hope is never lost.

best wishes go to richard.

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Old 08 April 2005, 04:57 PM
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very sad news
Old 08 April 2005, 04:59 PM
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Wasnt Richard the first englishman to win a world rally?
Old 08 April 2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
I heard some upsetting news yesterday from one of my motorsport friends.

Apparently he had a grade 4 tumour (presumably this is bad?) and was in a very bad way - vegatitive at one point.

Apparently he will be lucky to even drive again, let alone race

That's all I know, so don't ask me for more detail, and please, no disrespectful comments, not a nice topic.
This is very sad news. One of the greats has been struck down at the prime of his career.

In answer to your question: Yes, grade 4 is very bad, it's the worst category of tumor if my understanding is correct.

Condolences to Richard and his friends and family.

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Old 08 April 2005, 05:19 PM
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Not good news at all after what he`s already been through
Old 08 April 2005, 05:30 PM
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Wow thats terrible news, just when it seemed he was well on the road to recovery.

My thoughts go out to Richard and his family
Old 08 April 2005, 05:41 PM
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Anyone got any more news
Old 08 April 2005, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daft Lad
Wow thats terrible news, just when it seemed he was well on the road to recovery.
The way I read the first post that's what he actually had and is now on the road to recovery. I hope that I read it right anyway!

I really do wish we knew more though.

Paul.
Old 08 April 2005, 06:02 PM
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MMMm this is not good news if its true... doing a google on tumor catagories is even worse news...for such a nice guy to be struck down like this is very sad indeed... My thoughts go out to him and the family, we know Richard is as good a fighter as anyone... and I would think everyone is doing there best for him...

All we can do is keep hopeing he at least gets well enough to appriciate all the good things in life, driving cars and all that stuff don't really stand up in such a situation...

A situation that could happen to any one of us and one that should spure people on to donate a few quid each month the Cancer research...

I did this several months ago and in the scheme of things cost next to nothing...


Good luck to Richard!


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Old 08 April 2005, 06:31 PM
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very bad news , top bloke and great driver !!
Old 08 April 2005, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by prelude
Thoughts go out to him and his family , he is a world class driver, and is the reason that i have a subaru .
well said
Old 08 April 2005, 06:52 PM
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Old 08 April 2005, 07:15 PM
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I was trying to organise the 3rd scoobynet ball for this year, but due to lack of demand and a lack of my organising abilities it never happened. I'd emailed richard, well, zoe his partner, to ask if he could come as guest of honour, and he had initially agreed to attend. I was over the moon to hear that, and was dissapointed to have to inform zoe that the event had been cancelled.
My thoughts go out to Richard and Zoe, and all his family at this time. If it is a grade 4, then my theatre nurse wife tells me that a grade 4 tumour is one that has no more normal cells in it. Depending on where it is, it may/maynot be operable.

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Old 08 April 2005, 08:33 PM
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I will try and find out more, I didn't want to pry for obvious reasons, but from what was said it was that he 'had' not 'has' and he just said that he wouldn't be likely to be able to drive again, which gives hope that he is at least going to survive.
Old 08 April 2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pete1977
Wasnt Richard the first englishman to win a world rally?
No, Roger Clark was the first Englishman to win a World Rally (1976 RAC IIRC), but Richard was the first englishman to win the World Rally Championship.

Terrible shame about the illness getting worse, as my friend says, it seems only the good get the bad luck
Old 08 April 2005, 11:36 PM
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Regardless of who he is should you really be discussing his health matters here? Would you want it if it were you.........
( ps I'm BM BChir MA MRCP FRCR = an oncologist)
Old 08 April 2005, 11:47 PM
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Fair point, but people are genuinely concerned - so please dont make an issue of it, regardless of your medical background

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Old 09 April 2005, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CHIPWANADOO
Regardless of who he is should you really be discussing his health matters here? Would you want it if it were you.........
( ps I'm BM BChir MA MRCP FRCR = an oncologist)
I thought long and hard before I posted and I decided that yes, if I was a sporting celebrity I would be happy that my fans were thinking of me during my darkest hour. There has been nothing but respect and well wishes here.
Old 09 April 2005, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CHIPWANADOO
Regardless of who he is should you really be discussing his health matters here? Would you want it if it were you.........
( ps I'm BM BChir MA MRCP FRCR = an oncologist)

Hmm 5 posts says it all!

As do i hope Richard gets over this, i met him once and tbh he's best sportsman i have ever talked to, had the time, even tho he was very busy to talk to us.
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Good luck Richard, our thoughts are with you....

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Old 09 April 2005, 11:12 AM
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Such sad news
My thoughts go out to Richard/ his family
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Absolutely.

Its so great though that we are all able to look back on the great things he achieved for the UK, and for the scooby

Some of you will also remember when Richard gave up his time to chat with us on scoobynet and answer a load of questions.

I'll dig out the thread.

All the best Richard, Zoe and family.

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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4788
Old 09 April 2005, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CHIPWANADOO
Regardless of who he is should you really be discussing his health matters here? Would you want it if it were you.........
( ps I'm BM BChir MA MRCP FRCR = an oncologist)
There is nothing here that is not already in the public domain; we're not trying to extract extensive and sensitive information about his condition, we're just concerned about him and would like to know how he his doing generally.

This thread is for Richard's fans to express their sadness at his bad fortune and pass on our very best wishes to him and his family. There can be no reasonable objection to that. Incidentally that's from a Psychologist.

Now, let's keep this thread on track please.

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just read the old thread loads of support for Richard then as im sure there is now
all the best to Richard and his family
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