Richard Burns p1 is no more.
21 March 2005, 04:51 PM
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Richard Burns p1 is no more.
It is with a heavy heart that I have to report that I killed Richard Burns P1 on Friday 
. Back end stepped out on me on Dorney Road in Slough (on the 2nd zig zag corner between Dorney and taplow sainsburys for those that know it) started to fishtail but kept the power in and managed to control it on the third fishtail but by then had ran out of road and hit the Kerb broadside on the passenger side. This snapped my head sideways into the window/ door frame knocking me unconscious, the car then flipped over onto its back with the boot smashing into the ground, it then flipped onto the drivers side and eventually back onto its wheels. Fortunately my two passengers (one my boss!) were virtually unhurt, just small cuts and bruises (they were sat on the passenger side so avoided being knocked out). I was unconscious at the scene so was immediately taken to Wrexham Park in an ambulance. Haven't seen the car yet but my passengers say it was definately a write off. Still feel pretty shaken and my heads pounding but at least everyone was relatively unscathed.
. Back end stepped out on me on Dorney Road in Slough (on the 2nd zig zag corner between Dorney and taplow sainsburys for those that know it) started to fishtail but kept the power in and managed to control it on the third fishtail but by then had ran out of road and hit the Kerb broadside on the passenger side. This snapped my head sideways into the window/ door frame knocking me unconscious, the car then flipped over onto its back with the boot smashing into the ground, it then flipped onto the drivers side and eventually back onto its wheels. Fortunately my two passengers (one my boss!) were virtually unhurt, just small cuts and bruises (they were sat on the passenger side so avoided being knocked out). I was unconscious at the scene so was immediately taken to Wrexham Park in an ambulance. Haven't seen the car yet but my passengers say it was definately a write off. Still feel pretty shaken and my heads pounding but at least everyone was relatively unscathed.
21 March 2005, 05:04 PM
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Sounds like a very painful experience. Gutted for you, I know what it is like to have your car written off. Happened to me just over a month ago, its no fun.
Glad the hear that everyone is OK, apart from your sore head. Hopefully all will be OK with the insurance so you can start to look for another nice car
Glad the hear that everyone is OK, apart from your sore head. Hopefully all will be OK with the insurance so you can start to look for another nice car
21 March 2005, 07:50 PM
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That's very bad news mate. Glad to hear you're okay if a bit hurt and p!ssed off. It was a lovely car ... I knew the Aussie who bought it from Richard and drove it a couple of times ... but it is still only metal at the end of the day.
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Glad you are ok.
The residents are going to go mental, there are so many accidents on those bends. Rumour has it they want a 20 in force.
I was once being taken out by a guy from Ralliart (he had come from the midlands to demonstrate the 330 Evo) as we approached those bends at 110.
I was in the back of the car, sat behind the drive. I could tell I did not like or rate this guy's driving as soon as we set off and regretted getting in it.
With a vast amount of racing experience under my belt, whilst knowing the Evo is a capable car, I know when people are taking liberties and taking the mick, I was so scared for my life I cannot explain.
I had the material (leather alcantara combo) a good foot high off the seat in anticipation for the worst. The car was well out of control, way past its limits, the guy was out of his depth. The car slid around the outside of the bend on the wrong side of the road - at this point, if anything had been coming it would have been death. We somehow came out of the corner back onto the straight all over the road. The guy shrugged his shoulders in a cocky manor and dismissed just putting his two passengers in such a compromising situation. He boasted we had only dipped below 80mph on the second corner - anyone who knows the road will simply not believe this possible, but he was doing 90mph as I caught a glimps as we went around the first bend.
I asked to be let out, the guy would not respond to my request. He continued to drive in a way that I would describe as appalling; putting the average motorist in serious risk as we slid all over the road just missing oncoming cars as the car scrabbled for grip.
As we got to the end of the country road (about 2miles long) the brakes had given up as we approached a junction we only just stopped. The brakes were poring with black smoke so much that we had to wait for the smoke to clear so we could see, no joke.
It was the worst motoring experience I have had by a long way.
By the end of the day the locals had informed the largest undercover traffic police base in Berkshire, which is 20metres from the road and corners in question. I was made aware of this because an acquaintance told me the following week a Mitsubishi had been flying around all day out of control near his parents whilst he was visiting. His parents failed to see the need to drive so fast in a built up area.
I recommend people treat those bends with a bit of respect. They bite as this thread demonstrates.
GTTurbo
The residents are going to go mental, there are so many accidents on those bends. Rumour has it they want a 20 in force.
I was once being taken out by a guy from Ralliart (he had come from the midlands to demonstrate the 330 Evo) as we approached those bends at 110.
I was in the back of the car, sat behind the drive. I could tell I did not like or rate this guy's driving as soon as we set off and regretted getting in it.
With a vast amount of racing experience under my belt, whilst knowing the Evo is a capable car, I know when people are taking liberties and taking the mick, I was so scared for my life I cannot explain.
I had the material (leather alcantara combo) a good foot high off the seat in anticipation for the worst. The car was well out of control, way past its limits, the guy was out of his depth. The car slid around the outside of the bend on the wrong side of the road - at this point, if anything had been coming it would have been death. We somehow came out of the corner back onto the straight all over the road. The guy shrugged his shoulders in a cocky manor and dismissed just putting his two passengers in such a compromising situation. He boasted we had only dipped below 80mph on the second corner - anyone who knows the road will simply not believe this possible, but he was doing 90mph as I caught a glimps as we went around the first bend.
I asked to be let out, the guy would not respond to my request. He continued to drive in a way that I would describe as appalling; putting the average motorist in serious risk as we slid all over the road just missing oncoming cars as the car scrabbled for grip.
As we got to the end of the country road (about 2miles long) the brakes had given up as we approached a junction we only just stopped. The brakes were poring with black smoke so much that we had to wait for the smoke to clear so we could see, no joke.
It was the worst motoring experience I have had by a long way.
By the end of the day the locals had informed the largest undercover traffic police base in Berkshire, which is 20metres from the road and corners in question. I was made aware of this because an acquaintance told me the following week a Mitsubishi had been flying around all day out of control near his parents whilst he was visiting. His parents failed to see the need to drive so fast in a built up area.
I recommend people treat those bends with a bit of respect. They bite as this thread demonstrates.
GTTurbo
21 March 2005, 11:23 PM
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GTTurbo,
I would have politely informed himt hat if he didn't stop IMMEDIATELY, then the consequences would be extremely detrimental to his health!
Its bad enough putting your own life in danger, but blatantly risking others is unforgiveable.
I'd have ******* lamped him!
I would have politely informed himt hat if he didn't stop IMMEDIATELY, then the consequences would be extremely detrimental to his health!
Its bad enough putting your own life in danger, but blatantly risking others is unforgiveable.
I'd have ******* lamped him!
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I really feel for you buddy.Apart from the fact it was a unique car it was your car and all serious Scooby owners grow a big attatchment to their baby's.Thankfully RBP1 managed to protect you and your passengers right to the end and you were only a bit bruised by the experience.
Little consolation as you replay the accident over and over in your mind wondering what you would or should have done differently if you had another chance.
Most importantly- no injuries and we look forward to hearing about the upcoming replacement!
Take it easy and feel better-Steven
22 March 2005, 09:51 AM
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Going to look at the car today which will be a bit of a gut wrenching experience I don't know what to replace it with, my head and wallet say something slower, more sensible and cheaper to run. My heart and wallet say a vx220 turbo for summer fun and lower running costs. At the moment I am just thankful no-one was seriously injured.
I don't know what to replace it with, my head and wallet say something slower, more sensible and cheaper to run. My heart and wallet say a vx220 turbo for summer fun and lower running costs. At the moment I am just thankful no-one was seriously injured.
22 March 2005, 10:49 AM
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Don't get to freaked out when you see the car.It happened and you have walked away but with all the crappy weather you get in the UK I'd stick to 4-WD.(besides summer in Britain only lasts 6 weeks!)
A nice new STI with DCCD sounds about right.
Steven
A nice new STI with DCCD sounds about right.
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22 March 2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GTTurbo
Glad you are ok.
The residents are going to go mental, there are so many accidents on those bends. Rumour has it they want a 20 in force.
I was once being taken out by a guy from Ralliart (he had come from the midlands to demonstrate the 330 Evo) as we approached those bends at 110.
I was in the back of the car, sat behind the drive. I could tell I did not like or rate this guy's driving as soon as we set off and regretted getting in it.
With a vast amount of racing experience under my belt, whilst knowing the Evo is a capable car, I know when people are taking liberties and taking the mick, I was so scared for my life I cannot explain.
I had the material (leather alcantara combo) a good foot high off the seat in anticipation for the worst. The car was well out of control, way past its limits, the guy was out of his depth. The car slid around the outside of the bend on the wrong side of the road - at this point, if anything had been coming it would have been death. We somehow came out of the corner back onto the straight all over the road. The guy shrugged his shoulders in a cocky manor and dismissed just putting his two passengers in such a compromising situation. He boasted we had only dipped below 80mph on the second corner - anyone who knows the road will simply not believe this possible, but he was doing 90mph as I caught a glimps as we went around the first bend.
I asked to be let out, the guy would not respond to my request. He continued to drive in a way that I would describe as appalling; putting the average motorist in serious risk as we slid all over the road just missing oncoming cars as the car scrabbled for grip.
As we got to the end of the country road (about 2miles long) the brakes had given up as we approached a junction we only just stopped. The brakes were poring with black smoke so much that we had to wait for the smoke to clear so we could see, no joke.
It was the worst motoring experience I have had by a long way.
By the end of the day the locals had informed the largest undercover traffic police base in Berkshire, which is 20metres from the road and corners in question. I was made aware of this because an acquaintance told me the following week a Mitsubishi had been flying around all day out of control near his parents whilst he was visiting. His parents failed to see the need to drive so fast in a built up area.
I recommend people treat those bends with a bit of respect. They bite as this thread demonstrates.
GTTurbo
The residents are going to go mental, there are so many accidents on those bends. Rumour has it they want a 20 in force.
I was once being taken out by a guy from Ralliart (he had come from the midlands to demonstrate the 330 Evo) as we approached those bends at 110.
I was in the back of the car, sat behind the drive. I could tell I did not like or rate this guy's driving as soon as we set off and regretted getting in it.
With a vast amount of racing experience under my belt, whilst knowing the Evo is a capable car, I know when people are taking liberties and taking the mick, I was so scared for my life I cannot explain.
I had the material (leather alcantara combo) a good foot high off the seat in anticipation for the worst. The car was well out of control, way past its limits, the guy was out of his depth. The car slid around the outside of the bend on the wrong side of the road - at this point, if anything had been coming it would have been death. We somehow came out of the corner back onto the straight all over the road. The guy shrugged his shoulders in a cocky manor and dismissed just putting his two passengers in such a compromising situation. He boasted we had only dipped below 80mph on the second corner - anyone who knows the road will simply not believe this possible, but he was doing 90mph as I caught a glimps as we went around the first bend.
I asked to be let out, the guy would not respond to my request. He continued to drive in a way that I would describe as appalling; putting the average motorist in serious risk as we slid all over the road just missing oncoming cars as the car scrabbled for grip.
As we got to the end of the country road (about 2miles long) the brakes had given up as we approached a junction we only just stopped. The brakes were poring with black smoke so much that we had to wait for the smoke to clear so we could see, no joke.
It was the worst motoring experience I have had by a long way.
By the end of the day the locals had informed the largest undercover traffic police base in Berkshire, which is 20metres from the road and corners in question. I was made aware of this because an acquaintance told me the following week a Mitsubishi had been flying around all day out of control near his parents whilst he was visiting. His parents failed to see the need to drive so fast in a built up area.
I recommend people treat those bends with a bit of respect. They bite as this thread demonstrates.
GTTurbo
22 March 2005, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobymoo
It is with a heavy heart that I have to report that I killed Richard Burns P1 on Friday . Back end stepped out on me on Dorney Road in Slough (on the 2nd zig zag corner between Dorney and taplow sainsburys for those that know it) started to fishtail but kept the power in and managed to control it on the third fishtail but by then had ran out of road and hit the Kerb broadside on the passenger side. This snapped my head sideways into the window/ door frame knocking me unconscious, the car then flipped over onto its back with the boot smashing into the ground, it then flipped onto the drivers side and eventually back onto its wheels. Fortunately my two passengers (one my boss!) were virtually unhurt, just small cuts and bruises (they were sat on the passenger side so avoided being knocked out). I was unconscious at the scene so was immediately taken to Wrexham Park in an ambulance. Haven't seen the car yet but my passengers say it was definately a write off. Still feel pretty shaken and my heads pounding but at least everyone was relatively unscathed.
. Back end stepped out on me on Dorney Road in Slough (on the 2nd zig zag corner between Dorney and taplow sainsburys for those that know it) started to fishtail but kept the power in and managed to control it on the third fishtail but by then had ran out of road and hit the Kerb broadside on the passenger side. This snapped my head sideways into the window/ door frame knocking me unconscious, the car then flipped over onto its back with the boot smashing into the ground, it then flipped onto the drivers side and eventually back onto its wheels. Fortunately my two passengers (one my boss!) were virtually unhurt, just small cuts and bruises (they were sat on the passenger side so avoided being knocked out). I was unconscious at the scene so was immediately taken to Wrexham Park in an ambulance. Haven't seen the car yet but my passengers say it was definately a write off. Still feel pretty shaken and my heads pounding but at least everyone was relatively unscathed.
22 March 2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by v5 man
Where is the P1 now (rough area) as I just passed a battered P1 in an accident pound in Hayes with someone looking over it. Not a million miles away either.
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22 March 2005, 03:05 PM
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Would get a VX Turbo cautiously, Subaru's are just kiddies cars in comparison to RWD performance cars, those without traction control anyway, 4WD does all the work so you dont have to, boring, but safe, especially combined with the fact that from the sound of it, if you'd been in something like a VX when it happened, you'd have more than just a sore head.
Saying that, it may be that sense of security that can make you push harder than you should, in a RWD you're constantly aware of various consequences to your actions, so you may find you drive them more safely than a 4WD.
Saying that, it may be that sense of security that can make you push harder than you should, in a RWD you're constantly aware of various consequences to your actions, so you may find you drive them more safely than a 4WD.
22 March 2005, 03:13 PM
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Scarey how quickly these things happen at the speed limit isn't it. Imagine what would have happened if you had been travelling in excess of:
the speed limits (a minor point)
what was appropriate for the road conditions
what was appropriate for your level of ability
Try PassPlus.
Oh and you do actually have my sympathy for destroying such a lovely car through your own stupidity.
the speed limits (a minor point)
what was appropriate for the road conditions
what was appropriate for your level of ability
Try PassPlus.
Oh and you do actually have my sympathy for destroying such a lovely car through your own stupidity.
22 March 2005, 03:20 PM
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Awww, people are being mean here. We all screw up from time to time. Even if you have been professionally trained and practiced what you have been taught loads, you will still make the odd error.
I'm sure that he has learned something from this.
I'm sure that he has learned something from this.
22 March 2005, 03:36 PM
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Yep as usual, judge, jury and executioner all lined up ready without knowing anything about the speeds involved, road conditions etc etc. Give the guy a break he's already gutted.
Bad news mate, hope everything gets sorted soon.
Bad news mate, hope everything gets sorted soon.