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Old 07 January 2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Anyone get pulled over the festive Period

I did

New years eve around 5:30pm, for having my front fogs on. Got a producer and a 30 quid fine, oh hum..... Police said I was the 4th person they had stopped that evening and I was the 3rd Impreza out the 4.

Thats added to the goverment coffers then ain't it, why don't you go catch some real crimminals

What is this county coming too......
Old 07 January 2005, 11:31 AM
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Do they have a light guage which decides when the weather is bad enough for you to have your fogs on? Not that i agree with people who have them on all the time but i would like to know on what they base the fine?
Old 07 January 2005, 11:35 AM
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I don't normally have them on. But when went to work that morning it was foggy. The only indication on an MY02 is the green light on the fog button, which is obsured by the steering wheel and my hands when driving. Poor design really and no dash indication ......
£30 for a forgetting grips my ****
Old 07 January 2005, 11:49 AM
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Yeah but as i said how do can they say it wasnt foggy where you just came from and how can they prove it wasnt foggy??? light meter etc?
Old 07 January 2005, 11:54 AM
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dONT THE FOG LIGHTS TURN THEMSELF OFF AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED THE ENGING OFF?
Old 07 January 2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by image doctor
dONT THE FOG LIGHTS TURN THEMSELF OFF AFTER YOU HAVE TURNED THE ENGING OFF?
rear ones yes, front ones no.

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Old 07 January 2005, 12:17 PM
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I thought you were also allowed them on during heavy rain.
Old 07 January 2005, 12:26 PM
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I have got time for the traffic guy's and feel they normally do a good if very tough job and more should replace the speed camera's - however to fine you for having front fogs on is just stupid IMO.
Stopping you and giving a quite word of advice on the rules / reasons etc. which could have been passed on via a forum such as this would have gone a long way.
Rear fogs at the wrong time yes but Can't say I have ever been dazzled by front fogs???
Old 07 January 2005, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Psymon
I did

New years eve around 5:30pm, for having my front fogs on. Got a producer and a 30 quid fine, oh hum..... Police said I was the 4th person they had stopped that evening and I was the 3rd Impreza out the 4.

Thats added to the goverment coffers then ain't it, why don't you go catch some real crimminals

What is this county coming too......
That is really ****ty!
The amount of dick driving around with front or rear fogs on... in the middle lane etc... i can't believe they fine you... jees!
Old 07 January 2005, 12:31 PM
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After an official complaint for harrassment (27 pulls, 5 rectification notices, 10 producers and 2 court cases [both thrown out!! ] in 6 months!!) I cant be pulled over in my locality unless I am being very stupid.

So a quiet festive period for me!!!!
Old 07 January 2005, 01:06 PM
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Got pulled New Years Day on the way home

for

"TRAVELLING AT WARP SPEED" but we didn't get a chance to get a reading sir because you saw us

I was breatherlised, standard on New Years Day or so I was told, then told to take it easy on the rest of my journey in that "fabulous car"

Good couple of Lads
Old 07 January 2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Yeah but as i said how do can they say it wasnt foggy where you just came from and how can they prove it wasnt foggy??? light meter etc?
Easy. Fog light can only legally be on when visibility is less than 100 metres (used to be 100 yards). Not hard to judge IMHO.

Still, seems a bit tight to issue points and a fine for front fogs instead of a warning. You weren't tonking it or driving badly in other ways, were you? I'm wondering if they got you for one thing because they couldn't prove you were doing something else?
Old 07 January 2005, 01:27 PM
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Yep, got stopped twice.

Once in a drink drive check.

Once on a random stop in the middle of the night.

Originally Posted by Psymon
The only indication on an MY02 is the green light on the fog button
And the big pool of light in front of the car on the road, that you can't miss in the dark.

Originally Posted by Psymon
why don't you go catch some real criminals
Cos you look like a fool driving round with them on and you deserve the fine to remind you to check next time IMHO
Old 07 January 2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Still, seems a bit tight to issue points and a fine for front fogs instead of a warning.
No points for a £30.00 fine mate.
Old 07 January 2005, 01:31 PM
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i got pulled off but not by the police if that counts
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Old 07 January 2005, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
i got pulled off but not by the police if that counts
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Old 07 January 2005, 02:17 PM
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Are your lamps Driving Lamps or Fog Lamps?????? Surely if they are driving lamps, as per my conversation with plod some months ago when I got stopped they can't frigging touch you, as they are only an extension to your headlights anyway........


Still think they were a pair of tw@ts to do you, and it's about time they got there bl@@dy act together before anarchy takes over this whole country....

Rob
Old 07 January 2005, 02:25 PM
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Interesting this one.
I have the standard front fog lights on my MY02. I asked them how the law stands on what the difference is between, fog and driving lamps. There response was that fog lights are not clear and driving lamps are, and also driving lamps have to be a certain height from the ground. Its all a bit iffy whiffy to me, I think they didn't have their quota for the day.

All being said they were very polite and not obnoxious like some of them can be. I just feel dissapointed, especially has there are so many cars out there with defective lights, at least all mine worked...
Old 07 January 2005, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by robuk
Are your lamps Driving Lamps or Fog Lamps?????? Surely if they are driving lamps, as per my conversation with plod some months ago when I got stopped they can't frigging touch you, as they are only an extension to your headlights anyway........

Rob
I thought driving lights could only come on with main beam, not dipped.
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Originally Posted by Jiggerypokery
I thought driving lights could only come on with main beam, not dipped.
You are indeed Correct
Old 07 January 2005, 02:48 PM
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depends how they are wired,the switch can be a deselect or a select dependent on wiring
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Old 07 January 2005, 02:54 PM
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True but they are not allowed to be on without the main beam
Old 07 January 2005, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Do they have a light guage which decides when the weather is bad enough for you to have your fogs on? Not that i agree with people who have them on all the time but i would like to know on what they base the fine?
Front foglights are only meant to be used when visibility is seriously imparied, below 100m (328ft).

The difference between a Front Fog Light, and a driving light is that the front foglight is activated from a seperate switch and has a warning light, and a driving light is activated only with main beam, regardless of if a switch to override them is in place.

As for the original question, nope didn't get stopped at all over the Xmas period.
Old 08 January 2005, 05:16 PM
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Wish they fined more people round here for having fog lights on, all the chav scum think they're great although what do you expect from a bunch of useless sad *****

Oh and they very often do dazzle, partly because there's very little focussing of the beam like headlights and also because they're never checked for alignment (normal lights have to be for MOT) so you can drive around for years with them pointing upwards, great eh?

I don't see why car manufacturer's don't fit driving lights, they are actually useful unlike fogs. Although it would probably result in all the chavs driving around with main beam on just so they can get the driving lights to come on....

Oh BTW I didn't get pulled
Old 08 January 2005, 05:29 PM
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Agree - the reason CHAVS love em is it make their car look like a top of the range one and also, it is a cheap and easy mod you can get from Halfrauds.

Didn't get pulled as car had no road tax so not on the road (bought online from DVLA on 22nd December - took until the 5th to arrive )

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Old 08 January 2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VWscooby
After an official complaint for harrassment (27 pulls, 5 rectification notices, 10 producers and 2 court cases [both thrown out!! ] in 6 months!!) I cant be pulled over in my locality unless I am being very stupid.

So a quiet festive period for me!!!!

you must have a very dodgy face/ car


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Old 09 January 2005, 06:44 AM
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Never got pulled for it, however if I did, my answer would be that they are driving lights, not fog lights.
Old 09 January 2005, 09:51 AM
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You would then get done for having them incorrectly wired !!!
Old 09 January 2005, 10:15 AM
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Didn't get pulled at all.

Ref the fog light thing, no offence but i have no sympathy - unfortunaelty as you explained in your situation you were unlucky, admitably(sp?) i'm guilty sometimes of doing that but, if i was caught i would take the slap on the wrist as it comes. We all preach about people with fogs on in clear vision (IIRC its when visibility is less than 100m due to fog) and its about time the police started doing something about it. It's also not just the chavs - normal folk think its fine to do it also. I wish people would have a read through the highway code, they might also learn how to use motorway lanes correctly too, but thats another rant.

IMHO if you have your fogs on when not required i treat you as having driving lights on, which means you are on full beam - you then get flashed by my full beam as a reminder that you have left them on.

BTW, can you tell what my biggest gripe of other road user is

Chris (who doesnt have fogs on his Sti anyway)
Old 09 January 2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by robuk
Still think they were a pair of tw@ts to do you, and it's about time they got there bl@@dy act together before anarchy takes over this whole country....
Rob
Oh the irony.......


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