mattdoyle

Wondering about getting my 04 WRX PPP'd, can anyone help me with the following Q's:

Can it only be done at main dealers?
What is the cost and is it variable depending where you go?
What exactly gets changed?
Can it be removed on resale?
Effects on BHP/Torque/fuel consumption?
Any other better value mods?
What is the 'value for money' opinion by those who have had it done.

regards

Matt

sKunk

Use the search button dude.

mattdoyle

sKunk
Search will bring back hundreds of posts, and none of them may answer my specific questions! Dude

D1CCY

Matt,

1. Yes, as they are only ones to get the parts and it keeps your warranty intact.
2. WRX £1600, little chance of discount.
3. Intercooler hose, rear box, and ECU (remapped unit exchanged). Not sure about cat.
4. Not really as you don't have original ECU.
5. Increases in power and torque but more importantly driveability. MPG possibly improves unless you really rag it.
6. Yes but they invalidate your warranty.
7. Had the slightly different PPP on my STi and it turns the car into what it should have been in the first place.

Cheers, Diccy.

mattdoyle

Diccy

Thanks for a sensible answer.

regards

FLAT ERIC

iTrader: (1)

Pretty much what Diccy said m8.

1. New - yes allegedly. Secondhand PPP parts - any garage can fit.
2. 03 WRX was £1600 fixed by Prodrive/Subaru dealers.Worth a haggle, they can only say no. Secondhand parts obviously variable.
3. This is what came off my WRX.

All except the chip.



And this is what went on :-



4. All can be removed but you will need another ECU cos you only have the one.
5. 0-60 in 4.8 secs
260 bhp
257 lb torque
Fuel consumption? How long is a bit of string? More torque should equate to gear changes made at lower revs so less fuel is used.But in the real world more torque equates to more grin factor hence more revs hence poor fuel consumption.So mpg is driver dependant.
6. Better value? Tricky.
If you value your warranty then PPP is the only way you can go.
If you dont care about your warranty then the sky's your limit.

There are cheaper ways to get the same or more gains than the PPP delivers but you loose the safety net that the warranty gives you.

Mark

billythekid

As you have an 04 car then PPP is best VFM by far, assuming its a UK car.

mattdoyle

Gents

Thx for the info, I better start saving up then.

£1600 looks like an awful lot of money for what you get(looking at FLAT's photo's), but I suppose that is what monopolies are all about!

regards

chris's scooby

Don't forget to look into what it will do to your insurance if you have it done.

corradoboy

SIDC membership = £20 IIRC, 10% discount on parts at certain dealers = £160.

Go figure

AvalancheS8

It is, but you are paying more to retain you warranty. If you can live without the warranty you could get a full (rather than the PPP's partial) de-cat, intercooler and turbo hoses and a custom ECU re-map for less money than the PPP, Probably about £1300.

ScoobyNoob

Aye, nearly doubled mine so I decided to leave it for a year!