SWIRLED PAINTWORK!!!
09 December 2004, 03:08 PM
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SWIRLED PAINTWORK!!!
I`m a little pissed off.
Been and had my usual £10 clean which is cheap I know but the muppets use the same water to wash the cars in a little too often and now my paint has a nice swirl to it.
It s a new set up run by Albanians and so far I`ve been there 4 times and no worries.
I normally go there first thing in the morning when the water is fresh.
What will make my nearly new I might add paint sparkle a bit better.
PS I`m a lazy git who doesnt do cleaning myself particularly well.
I did have a word with the guy who owns it but he blamed it on metallic paint which I know is bollox.
I`m not a concours kind a guy but this has pissed me off a little
T-CUT???
WR1 by the way but I guess you all already knew that
Been and had my usual £10 clean which is cheap I know but the muppets use the same water to wash the cars in a little too often and now my paint has a nice swirl to it.
It s a new set up run by Albanians and so far I`ve been there 4 times and no worries.
I normally go there first thing in the morning when the water is fresh.
What will make my nearly new I might add paint sparkle a bit better.
PS I`m a lazy git who doesnt do cleaning myself particularly well.
I did have a word with the guy who owns it but he blamed it on metallic paint which I know is bollox.
I`m not a concours kind a guy but this has pissed me off a little
T-CUT???
WR1 by the way but I guess you all already knew that
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09 December 2004, 03:14 PM
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sorry chap, clean it yourself, that way you know how good (or bad) a job has been done, cheaper too.
That said I used sone autoglym car shampoo and resin polish on my black mx-5, that took a lot of the old swirls out with litle effort and really bought the colour up
That said I used sone autoglym car shampoo and resin polish on my black mx-5, that took a lot of the old swirls out with litle effort and really bought the colour up
09 December 2004, 03:18 PM
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Any other ideas anyone will it come up with just a little pollish.
You cant keep a car lookin good for long these days and like I say I dont have 3 hours every Sunday to wash it
You cant keep a car lookin good for long these days and like I say I dont have 3 hours every Sunday to wash it
09 December 2004, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulham71
NOT T CUT there are plenty of less abrasive or non abrasive options on the market that will rid you car of those swirls !
Pink label I think
09 December 2004, 03:27 PM
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The Autoglym products I am afraid are not my specialised subject !
BUT there are products that will clear it & that maybe one. I would say you need a pre wax treatment & then to add a wax afterwards
BUT there are products that will clear it & that maybe one. I would say you need a pre wax treatment & then to add a wax afterwards
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So I get my Autoglym RED pollish out and have a go then????
Simo shut it.
PS these guys do a really good job narmally just go first thing in the morning is my advise......perhaps I should listen to me more
Simo shut it.
PS these guys do a really good job narmally just go first thing in the morning is my advise......perhaps I should listen to me more
09 December 2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulham71
The Autoglym products I am afraid are not my specialised subject !
BUT there are products that will clear it & that maybe one. I would say you need a pre wax treatment & then to add a wax afterwards
BUT there are products that will clear it & that maybe one. I would say you need a pre wax treatment & then to add a wax afterwards
I may be better off just getting it valeted??
Buffed??
09 December 2004, 03:37 PM
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Yup the sponge has probably been dropped in the grit a fair few times by then end of the day !
Witht he proper bits the car can be washed at home in less time than it takes to queue up in one of these places & for less money too !
Sorry sounds like a rant wasnt meant to be !
Witht he proper bits the car can be washed at home in less time than it takes to queue up in one of these places & for less money too !
Sorry sounds like a rant wasnt meant to be !
09 December 2004, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulham71
Yup the sponge has probably been dropped in the grit a fair few times by then end of the day !
Witht he proper bits the car can be washed at home in less time than it takes to queue up in one of these places & for less money too !
Sorry sounds like a rant wasnt meant to be !
Witht he proper bits the car can be washed at home in less time than it takes to queue up in one of these places & for less money too !
Sorry sounds like a rant wasnt meant to be !
Do you have anything that I dont already know to say??
Stating the obvious is not helping me if you get my meaning??
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09 December 2004, 03:41 PM
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Arron
you dont need to have it valeted but you do need to use clean wash cloths, drying towels, applicators & buffing towels
Plenty of retailers sell machine washable ones of all of these !
There is a mass range of products from Halfords, to autoglym to meguirs & swissol & all i assume have their merits !
pick the one that suits you & I am sure that most ranges do the products that you require.
try to pick non abrasive products as obviously these will protect your paintwork !
Just seen your other thread I was trying to help but I cant post a straight reply or the post will be vaped !
If you want some direct advice then please PM Me !
you dont need to have it valeted but you do need to use clean wash cloths, drying towels, applicators & buffing towels
Plenty of retailers sell machine washable ones of all of these !
There is a mass range of products from Halfords, to autoglym to meguirs & swissol & all i assume have their merits !
pick the one that suits you & I am sure that most ranges do the products that you require.
try to pick non abrasive products as obviously these will protect your paintwork !
Just seen your other thread I was trying to help but I cant post a straight reply or the post will be vaped !
If you want some direct advice then please PM Me !
09 December 2004, 03:41 PM
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nip to your local halfords and see what they have i used to get car washed but now do it myself as the subaru paintwork is notoriously thin and requires a delicate touch,you could be really cheeky and take it back to dealer and say it has always been like that and you want something done about it
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09 December 2004, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by p1doc
nip to your local halfords and see what they have i used to get car washed but now do it myself as the subaru paintwork is notoriously thin and requires a delicate touch,you could be really cheeky and take it back to dealer and say it has always been like that and you want something done about it
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09 December 2004, 03:47 PM
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T-Cut and a buffing machine should do the trick. Pour copious amounts onto the pad a turn to the fastest speed, applying extra pressure on all edges!!!
As advised before polish and a lot of elbow grease should cure and remember to clean it yourself next time.
I use Turtle Wax Extreme, seems as good as any. Not tried Maguires though, which seems to have a good, if not expensive reputation.
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As advised before polish and a lot of elbow grease should cure and remember to clean it yourself next time.
I use Turtle Wax Extreme, seems as good as any. Not tried Maguires though, which seems to have a good, if not expensive reputation.
Dan
09 December 2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ140
T-Cut and a buffing machine should do the trick. Pour copious amounts onto the pad a turn to the fastest speed, applying extra pressure on all edges!!!
As advised before polish and a lot of elbow grease should cure and remember to clean it yourself next time.
I use Turtle Wax Extreme, seems as good as any. Not tried Maguires though, which seems to have a good, if not expensive reputation.
Dan
As advised before polish and a lot of elbow grease should cure and remember to clean it yourself next time.
I use Turtle Wax Extreme, seems as good as any. Not tried Maguires though, which seems to have a good, if not expensive reputation.
Dan
He did offer to pollish it for me but I didnt have time
09 December 2004, 03:50 PM
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A buffing machine simply is not necessary & could cause further problems if not used properly !
That is a really extreme method of trying to cure a simple problem
Swissol Cleaner fluid will do the job there are three strengths & the one used is dependant on the depth of the "scratch"
Have a look in Scoobyshop where there are a couple of retailers selling it
Always ensure that the paint is sealed with a wax afterwards
That is a really extreme method of trying to cure a simple problem
Swissol Cleaner fluid will do the job there are three strengths & the one used is dependant on the depth of the "scratch"
Have a look in Scoobyshop where there are a couple of retailers selling it
Always ensure that the paint is sealed with a wax afterwards
09 December 2004, 03:57 PM
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Arron,
Are you talking about the fellas at Southoe on the A1?
I have mine done in there every Sunday, and this morning noticed that I have the swirly paintwork that you're describing.
I'm getting a friend who runs his own bodyshop to run a mop over it with some decent polish over xmas - should only take him an hour. That will get rid of all the little scratches and put a nice shine on the bodywork.
I'm sure if you bung him a drink, he'll do the same for yours.
Are you talking about the fellas at Southoe on the A1?
I have mine done in there every Sunday, and this morning noticed that I have the swirly paintwork that you're describing.
I'm getting a friend who runs his own bodyshop to run a mop over it with some decent polish over xmas - should only take him an hour. That will get rid of all the little scratches and put a nice shine on the bodywork.
I'm sure if you bung him a drink, he'll do the same for yours.
09 December 2004, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by S11EPS
Arron,
Are you talking about the fellas at Southoe on the A1?
I have mine done in there every Sunday, and this morning noticed that I have the swirly paintwork that you're describing.
I'm getting a friend who runs his own bodyshop to run a mop over it with some decent polish over xmas - should only take him an hour. That will get rid of all the little scratches and put a nice shine on the bodywork.
I'm sure if you bung him a drink, he'll do the same for yours.
Are you talking about the fellas at Southoe on the A1?
I have mine done in there every Sunday, and this morning noticed that I have the swirly paintwork that you're describing.
I'm getting a friend who runs his own bodyshop to run a mop over it with some decent polish over xmas - should only take him an hour. That will get rid of all the little scratches and put a nice shine on the bodywork.
I'm sure if you bung him a drink, he'll do the same for yours.
I have built up a reasonable relationship with the two brothers that run it and have never had reason to be pissed off but you MUST go early say 8 in the morning.
PM me and give me a call
09 December 2004, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulham71
A buffing machine simply is not necessary & could cause further problems if not used properly !
That is a really extreme method of trying to cure a simple problem
Swissol Cleaner fluid will do the job there are three strengths & the one used is dependant on the depth of the "scratch"
Have a look in Scoobyshop where there are a couple of retailers selling it
Always ensure that the paint is sealed with a wax afterwards
That is a really extreme method of trying to cure a simple problem
Swissol Cleaner fluid will do the job there are three strengths & the one used is dependant on the depth of the "scratch"
Have a look in Scoobyshop where there are a couple of retailers selling it
Always ensure that the paint is sealed with a wax afterwards
09 December 2004, 04:07 PM
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I think to keep swirls at bay has been said numerous times, so getting rid of the swirls is a bit pointless unless the wash regime is changed.
There are a number of products that will hide swirls, Ive used Meguiars NXT wax and thats a great swirl reducer.
Other than that you`re into polishing by a Pro really.
Hope you dont feel Ive been teaching you to suck eggs, just trying to help.
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There are a number of products that will hide swirls, Ive used Meguiars NXT wax and thats a great swirl reducer.
Other than that you`re into polishing by a Pro really.
Hope you dont feel Ive been teaching you to suck eggs, just trying to help.
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09 December 2004, 04:11 PM
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PLEASE DO NOT USE T-CUT ON A WR1, or any Scooby for that matter 
If I may recommend, start with a suitable car shampoo. It needn't be expensive, but make sure it's intended for cars, as household cleaning products contain large amounts of salt and other nasty chemicals
Wet the car all over, then start to wash from top to bottom, using a different sponge for the sills, arches and wheels. Hose off, then blade all suitable surfaces and finish off drying with a soft towel.
Now the good bit
One panel at a time, apply Meguiars Scratch-X (which I think has now been named "Swirl Remover") and buff of with either a soft dry terry towel (the wife won't mind, really ) or a proper polishing cloth.
Apply Meguiars Gold Class Carnuba Wax to whole car, buffing either after each panel, or the whole car at the end.
Now, after around 3 hours work you could leave it at that, or you could do another coat of Meguiars wax. But I prefer to apply a coat (or two) of Simoniz Original Carnuba Wax. Takes me about 3 hours on top of the other stuff, but boy does it gleam, and lasts like nothing else (mine's been done once this year and still reticulates water into droplets - I'd like time to get another layer on before winter proper though )
Someone will be along shortly to persuade you into buying a Swissol kit for £150, but the products I use come in at less than £30, and last ages.
MEGUIARS
SIMONIZ
If you're anywhere near Leeds, drop the car at mine midweek (good weather required
) and I'll do the basic wash/de-swirl/wax for £50, or the full monty for £80
The results......
If I may recommend, start with a suitable car shampoo. It needn't be expensive, but make sure it's intended for cars, as household cleaning products contain large amounts of salt and other nasty chemicals
Wet the car all over, then start to wash from top to bottom, using a different sponge for the sills, arches and wheels. Hose off, then blade all suitable surfaces and finish off drying with a soft towel.Now the good bit
One panel at a time, apply Meguiars Scratch-X (which I think has now been named "Swirl Remover") and buff of with either a soft dry terry towel (the wife won't mind, really ) or a proper polishing cloth.Apply Meguiars Gold Class Carnuba Wax to whole car, buffing either after each panel, or the whole car at the end.
Now, after around 3 hours work you could leave it at that, or you could do another coat of Meguiars wax. But I prefer to apply a coat (or two) of Simoniz Original Carnuba Wax. Takes me about 3 hours on top of the other stuff, but boy does it gleam, and lasts like nothing else (mine's been done once this year and still reticulates water into droplets - I'd like time to get another layer on before winter proper though
)Someone will be along shortly to persuade you into buying a Swissol kit for £150, but the products I use come in at less than £30, and last ages.
MEGUIARS
SIMONIZ
If you're anywhere near Leeds, drop the car at mine midweek (good weather required
) and I'll do the basic wash/de-swirl/wax for £50, or the full monty for £80 The results......
09 December 2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ARRON BIRD
Now thats the best idea so far.
I have built up a reasonable relationship with the two brothers that run it and have never had reason to be pissed off but you MUST go early say 8 in the morning.
PM me and give me a call
I have built up a reasonable relationship with the two brothers that run it and have never had reason to be pissed off but you MUST go early say 8 in the morning.
PM me and give me a call
If you really have no other option, hard to believe, get them to use clean water next time.
Please tell me this is a wind up? If it were me there is no way I would use them again.
09 December 2004, 04:15 PM
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corradoboy, I use a very similar regime to you but with Meguiars Pro product range.
I dont think Arron Bird can be bothered to that extent.
I dont think Arron Bird can be bothered to that extent.
09 December 2004, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
PLEASE DO NOT USE T-CUT ON A WR1, or any Scooby for that matter
If I may recommend, start with a suitable car shampoo. It needn't be expensive, but make sure it's intended for cars, as household cleaning products contain large amounts of salt and other nasty chemicals Wet the car all over, then start to wash from top to bottom, using a different sponge for the sills, arches and wheels. Hose off, then blade all suitable surfaces and finish off drying with a soft towel.
Now the good bit One panel at a time, apply Meguiars Scratch-X (which I think has now been named "Swirl Remover") and buff of with either a soft dry terry towel (the wife won't mind, really ) or a proper polishing cloth.
Apply Meguiars Gold Class Carnuba Wax to whole car, buffing either after each panel, or the whole car at the end.
Now, after around 3 hours work you could leave it at that, or you could do another coat of Meguiars wax. But I prefer to apply a coat (or two) of Simoniz Original Carnuba Wax. Takes me about 3 hours on top of the other stuff, but boy does it gleam, and lasts like nothing else (mine's been done once this year and still reticulates water into droplets - I'd like time to get another layer on before winter proper though )
Someone will be along shortly to persuade you into buying a Swissol kit for £150, but the products I use come in at less than £30, and last ages.
MEGUIARS
SIMONIZ
If you're anywhere near Leeds, drop the car at mine midweek (good weather required ) and I'll do the basic wash/de-swirl/wax for £50, or the full monty for £80
The results......
If I may recommend, start with a suitable car shampoo. It needn't be expensive, but make sure it's intended for cars, as household cleaning products contain large amounts of salt and other nasty chemicals
Wet the car all over, then start to wash from top to bottom, using a different sponge for the sills, arches and wheels. Hose off, then blade all suitable surfaces and finish off drying with a soft towel.Now the good bit
One panel at a time, apply Meguiars Scratch-X (which I think has now been named "Swirl Remover") and buff of with either a soft dry terry towel (the wife won't mind, really ) or a proper polishing cloth.Apply Meguiars Gold Class Carnuba Wax to whole car, buffing either after each panel, or the whole car at the end.
Now, after around 3 hours work you could leave it at that, or you could do another coat of Meguiars wax. But I prefer to apply a coat (or two) of Simoniz Original Carnuba Wax. Takes me about 3 hours on top of the other stuff, but boy does it gleam, and lasts like nothing else (mine's been done once this year and still reticulates water into droplets - I'd like time to get another layer on before winter proper though
)Someone will be along shortly to persuade you into buying a Swissol kit for £150, but the products I use come in at less than £30, and last ages.
MEGUIARS
SIMONIZ
If you're anywhere near Leeds, drop the car at mine midweek (good weather required
) and I'll do the basic wash/de-swirl/wax for £50, or the full monty for £80 The results......
The car is nearly 2 years old and water still beads on the paintwork, but I fancy applying some decent polish, on one of my days off over the Xmas break.
Dan
09 December 2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ140
Why would you ever go back to these guys? You know they use dirty water, they've scratched your car and you still want to give them your business!
If you really have no other option, hard to believe, get them to use clean water next time.
Please tell me this is a wind up? If it were me there is no way I would use them again.
If you really have no other option, hard to believe, get them to use clean water next time.
Please tell me this is a wind up? If it were me there is no way I would use them again.
If you go first thing I have had no problem.
Will probably go back to using my friendly BMW dealer now though.
Is there anyone in the Cambs area that can do it for me and how much for folding??
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Originally Posted by DJ140
Can your wax be used over Diamondbrite?
The car is nearly 2 years old and water still beads on the paintwork, but I fancy applying some decent polish, on one of my days off over the Xmas break.
Dan
The car is nearly 2 years old and water still beads on the paintwork, but I fancy applying some decent polish, on one of my days off over the Xmas break.
Dan