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Old 05 December 2004, 09:44 PM
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One thought crossed my mind this evening whilst watch the program.

It seems very false how the presenter who is used to driving extremely powerful cars can drop to the likes of a Golf Gti and feel the power. Its like myself stepping down from my Subaru into a 1 litre fiesta and driving it just as hard. You'd just loose the impression of power.




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dont you go knocking them 1ltr fiesta's.....would kick your **** ........
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did the golf go round faster that a WRX?
Old 05 December 2004, 09:57 PM
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yeah but the wrx was tested in the hot weather .......heat soak
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I don't think he so much "feels" the power as kind of 'intellectually' notes its performance relative to other cars in it's class.

Everything must seem a bit of a step down compared to the GT40! :-)

However, performance is a relative term!

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Old 05 December 2004, 10:49 PM
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he has not got it yet and the price keeps rising!!
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Originally Posted by Scoobedoo
One thought crossed my mind this evening whilst watch the program.

It seems very false how the presenter who is used to driving extremely powerful cars can drop to the likes of a Golf Gti and feel the power. Its like myself stepping down from my Subaru into a 1 litre fiesta and driving it just as hard. You'd just loose the impression of power.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/re...meldrew220.jpg

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Sorry, but in that case, why don't they just drive the fastest car in the world and then say everything else is cr@p in comparison.

As others have said, it's all relative. Not sure how you can say its false when it is relative. Not only is speed and power not everything, I'm sure the chassis on the Golf, and indeed the engine and somewhat better than our WRX chassis. Therefore, the impression of power is always there - good ro bad. IN the golf, it was very good, and coupled with everything else, made it excellent....
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What was the difference between the golf and the WRX?

What was the golf time compared to an STI?
Old 05 December 2004, 10:58 PM
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It was a good this week the porsche part was very funny

The Golf did look nice but 20k is alot of money.

It will be out of date in 3mths when another model comes out

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Old 05 December 2004, 11:05 PM
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I deffo wouldn't spend 20k on a golf. Good car or not. Give me an sti, Evo 7/8 for that dollar any day of the week

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Me and the Mrs watched it last night and after Clarkson raved about the Golfs 0-60 time of 6.9 seconds she said, 'What's ours?' and I said just chortled.

Probably about the same until I get the 1,000 mile oil change done!

Stigs time Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
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Bet its worth more money than yours in a couple of years though Dietbruboy
Old 06 December 2004, 09:47 AM
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6.9 to 60. Might be a bit optimistic! Aren't VW claiming low 7 -which sounds more like. For some reason I've never warmed to the golf Gti; I've only been exposed to the recent ones which simply don't aren't quick or exciting enough to be considered a proper Gti. I think i'd like the original though :-)

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I wonder if Jeremy's wife was given a new golf by VW?

It did seem odd that he was getting so excited about it.

(I thought the seats were horrible)
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Bet its worth more money than yours in a couple of years though Dietbruboy
You mean to say that Scoobs depreciate badly?

Why did no-one tell me this????

I thought it was going to be a money-back winner like my previous Cooper S?
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Originally Posted by dietbruboy
You mean to say that Scoobs depreciate badly?

Why did no-one tell me this????

I thought it was going to be a money-back winner like my previous Cooper S?

The words nasty and shock spring to mind ....... .......why oh why did i take my name off the cooper S cabriolet list when I was 1st at my local dealer???? takes himself to oneside and punches himself.
Old 06 December 2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by alwong
What was the difference between the golf and the WRX?

What was the golf time compared to an STI?
Isn't the WRX time from a bugeye?

I'd be interested to know what the 05 blobeye would do?
Old 06 December 2004, 03:15 PM
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Did anybody see Jason Plato test driving the new Golf GTi on Fifth Gear? He absolutely loved it as well.
Old 06 December 2004, 03:18 PM
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I thought it was funny when he said "We will give to our own STI g"
Old 06 December 2004, 03:32 PM
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You can't slate the Golf GTI, I have an Original Campaign model which is now 21 years old and still worth £4-4500, in 21 years time I hope my RB5 still going to be worth that if it's still going and not rotted away, some how I don't think so!
Old 06 December 2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
6.9 to 60. Might be a bit optimistic! Aren't VW claiming low 7 -which sounds more like.
6.9secs is with the £1325 DSG gearbox option
Old 06 December 2004, 04:20 PM
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Guys you have to also take into account that a Golf driver is (mostly) a different kind of person to a subaru driver. The GTi is not so much a hot-hatch as it is a potent small family car laced with a heritage of reliability and a lot of immage to look up to. As clarkson said, it's good for all the urban types to swap for their X5s for. And quite frankly it's a totaly different car to a WRX. Mind you, with a little bit of tuning, I'm sure 250-260 horses can be coaxed out of that VW engine before pistons, con-rods and clutch needed to be replaced, so match those with an LSD in the front, harder breakpads and a slightly uprated suspension and swaybar set-up, and you'll end up with a WRX beater... Albeit at the price of an STI by then!
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The old 1.8T is capable of mid 300s without breaking, the 225 engines after all come with Mahle forged pistons. Time will tell on the 2.0 version.

6.9 doesn't seem unreasonable, the old 150 BHP Golf GTi used to do 8.0 IIRC, and this has 50 BHP more. The LCR 225 is sub 7 second.

Autocar had 0-60 in the high 6s with an Octavia vRS, although that was thought to have been breathed upon.
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I wouldn't underestimate the new Golf GTI 200 BHP. My brother has the 1.8T and there wasn't a great deal in it to 60 MPH against my previously owned bug-eye WRX. The WRX was quicker but not substantially. (Distance terms)

I reckon this 200BHP would give the bug eye a run for its money!!
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What!.... A poxy Golf beating my WRX.... I don't believe it

Old 06 December 2004, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobedoo
What!.... A poxy Golf beating my WRX.... I don't believe it
I do
Old 06 December 2004, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobedoo
What!.... A poxy Golf beating my WRX.... I don't believe it

A standard WRX vs Standard new Golf GTI. very close mate.
Old 06 December 2004, 08:27 PM
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the times on the TG track have got much quicker over the series'. I assume it's due to rubber going down and I reckon this Stig is much quicker than the old one too.
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