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Old 26 November 2004, 02:02 PM
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Default BP Ultimate Vs Shell Optimax

Hello, people.

Anybody got any thoughts/opinions on which one of these fuels are best for my W 2000 Classic (UK Model) Turbo.
Old 26 November 2004, 02:03 PM
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Here we go.....
Old 26 November 2004, 02:09 PM
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give the lad a break its his first post .........
Old 26 November 2004, 02:12 PM
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Optimax, although the BP stuff seemed to make the engine note lower, no idea why...
Old 26 November 2004, 02:26 PM
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LOL... yes its his first post so proper answer.

Lots of people have various opinions (mainly just that - opinions ) on the use of either. Neither fuel will cause you a problem....

Its much better than using normal unleaded..... but i think as your car is a "classic" shape car - you need to re-set the ECU on the car once you have filled up - so it realises its got nice new fuel in it so it advances your ignition and gives you more grunt. If you dont do that i think others have found it can take ages until it realises. You'll need to do a search on re-setting the ECU.

I prefer Optimax - if only because its a bit cheaper than BP Ultimate.... but as long as i put SUL in it im happy...

Jza
Old 26 November 2004, 02:35 PM
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Another vote for Optimax here.

Then again my car is tuned so I need the extra octane.
Old 26 November 2004, 02:39 PM
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Nathan, but had you had the car mapped on BP then it would need that

I use Shell myself also.

there are those (incl. myself) that have slated BP when ignition is set up for Shell, ie advanced on a later ECU or mapped on aftermarket.
chances are with either a tweak or a reset it would be fine, but whose got the time for that?
Old 26 November 2004, 02:43 PM
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Its much better than using normal unleaded..... but i think as your car is a "classic" shape car - you need to re-set the ECU on the car once you have filled up - so it realises its got nice new fuel in it so it advances your ignition and gives you more grunt. If you dont do that i think others have found it can take ages until it realises. You'll need to do a search on re-setting the ECU.
IIRC, as it's an MY00, the ECU self-learns very quickly, so no need to reset

Dan

PS, use SUL and BP Ultimate when available - never used Optimax, so can't comment.
Old 26 November 2004, 03:01 PM
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Tesco Unleaded.
Old 26 November 2004, 03:18 PM
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Interesting re ECU learning Optimax. My car is a MY97 Turbo which I;ve owned for 2 months. Should I be doing a ECU reset for the Optimax I put in ?
Old 26 November 2004, 03:25 PM
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Asda Unleaded for me now. 10p a litre difference for little more than a phsyscological improvement imho...
So on my mileage a saving for over £200 a year which I can spend on biatches, bling and ringadingding and my car still eats ctr's, which is nice
Old 26 November 2004, 03:27 PM
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I'm gonna jump on the optimax bandwagon. Found my car never ran quite as well on Ultimate - oh and its been mapped to Optimax now too
Old 26 November 2004, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
Nathan, but had you had the car mapped on BP then it would need that


True, but I want more octane with less NF for my JDM STi

Plus idle is smoother and throttle response seems sharper. Well it did on my old PPP WRX.
Old 26 November 2004, 03:51 PM
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Optimax for me.

Spent alot of money on the car....why not feed it the 'best' (in my opinion) I can afford to keep it running well?
Old 26 November 2004, 03:53 PM
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Telboy


speak soon re: turbo wrap

abdabz...
you got KL?
Old 26 November 2004, 04:03 PM
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Let me know Andy - haven't ordered it yet but next week's business for sure. Have another home for half of it if you don't want it, so let me know...


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Old 26 November 2004, 04:05 PM
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Another vote for Optimax. Esso SUL when can`t get any of that. Originally only used normal unleaded from shell or bp, put morrisons in it once never again, it really didn`t like it. Discovered benefits of optimax when i thought i`d give it a treat and the fuel light was on. Seemed to pick up better.


Jase
Old 26 November 2004, 04:10 PM
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i cant get optimax (no garages round here that sell it) so BP gets my vote by default
Old 26 November 2004, 04:48 PM
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me want Tel.
Pm's over the weekend
Old 26 November 2004, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
Telboy


speak soon re: turbo wrap

abdabz...
you got KL?
KL? If we're talking about Keith's Lumbago, then no thank god
Old 26 November 2004, 05:02 PM
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lmfao

if you have proven that its a big con then theres money to be made, or saved rather for the rest of us, well not me because I have been mapped for optipish
Old 26 November 2004, 05:12 PM
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Optimax for me too

p.s. first post for scooby-raz, but telboy do you do anything else?
Old 26 November 2004, 05:22 PM
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BP for long trips. it last longer than optimax
OPTIMAX for round town last longer than bp round town

my car is a newage so will be different to classics
Old 26 November 2004, 05:25 PM
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Esso Sul or whatever they call it now.
Old 26 November 2004, 05:31 PM
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Most people will find they can't tell the difference rally i bet!

I'm honest and i can't!

Comper100
Old 26 November 2004, 06:41 PM
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Definitely Optimax, BP Ultimate makes my car very lumpy and a nightmare to drive in traffic.

I have to drive 10 miles to my nearest Shell station but it is worth it.
Old 26 November 2004, 07:31 PM
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I have used Optimax exclusively for 18 months. Went to Cornwall in the Summer for a couple of weeks, and didn't have any nearby Optimax garages, so ended up filling up with BP Ultimate. I was under full load (with a car full of camping gear) and I ended up getting fuel cut (didn't happen under full load with the Optimax).
So I still continue to use Optimax, and have got a Shell map with all the garages in the UK now - just in case
Make of that what you will.
Old 26 November 2004, 08:01 PM
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my car is mapped for super but I use optimax with a bit of octane booster every now and then for that extra smile.
Old 26 November 2004, 09:56 PM
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i use both and aint noticed the difference 2 b honest
car was mapped with optimax in it . . . .

but aren't they both 97RON anyway ? so,why would that make a difference ?
Old 26 November 2004, 10:30 PM
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optimax 98+ (as much as 98.6), bp is 97


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