steppers

Heard a rumour today from the horses mouth that prodrive and subaru are having in depths talks about a 377bhp sti
Will compete head on with the evo fq400 he said
just ironing out warranty details apparantly
Anyone else heard this

chris's scooby

Nope but i'm reaching for my cheque book...

B16 POK

Picking up my 2005 STI tomorrow and the dealer told me off the record there will be a new PPP package in the new year to compete against the FQ400.

Role on.

Anybody else awaiting their new prodrive wheels ?

chris's scooby

I'm not too sure that the standard engine and gearbox in the UK 2 litre cars will be strong enought to cope with the power.

In the ring of fire

Chris i agree though it has to be said you never know

chris's scooby

Maybe in the forecoming 2.5's, unless we're going to get the JDM spec engines.

377bhp is rather a strange figure...

pin777

was told by dealer yesturday

next year releasing uk 2.5 turbo 300bhb 350bhb with ppp

estimated at apx £28k (without ppp)

T5NYW

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personally I'd love them to just make it 340bhp and take 15% off the weight, that would give a better Power/weight ratio and have less strain on transmission/brakes and engine components.

IIRC the newage engine/Gearbox/transmisson is still fairly reliable at 380Lbs of torque as STD.

with those fiques surely a 2.5

Tony

chris's scooby

Do you mean the JDM blocks or the UK ones?

B16 POK

I Test drove a Jap Spec STI 2005 at David Hendrys that had 309 BHP and they said if i had the exhaust for it it would add another 40 brake and all the standard equipment would take the extra power. So may be its not a fairy story.

B16 POK

I will be well pissed if there is a new model out next year and its a 2.5. The dealer did not offer any indications of a new model just the PPP new upgrade.

Damn

AndyC_772

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Get a Type 25 mate - 2.5 engine and 350bhp right now.

I've heard a few rumours about the 2.5 engine coming officially to the UK, though none of them from a reliable source.

chris's scooby

I know the JDM's can produce the higher bhp figures, it's the uk engines that don't seem to be able to do it reliably.

The 2.5 turbo is in the UK now, it's in the Forester.

The rumours are that the 2.5 will be in the Impreza next model year, before the new shape comes out the year after that.

Scratch

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Haven't they had a few problems with the T25 ?

Warrenty claims for drive train (or so I 've heard) ?

Bodgery

Why????!!! Why not wait just a few months a see what Subaru do? That way, you get a proper warranty.

AndyC_772

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It's the same with any area where technical progress is being made rapidly. If you need something now, just buy it. If you can wait then do - but be assured that whenever you actually do buy, there will always be something along that's even better if you'd just waited a bit longer.

If you want to wait & see then go ahead - but T25 owners will be enjoying their cars right now.

SPEN555

I'm still waiting off the back of the P1 for the P2 to arrive and that was a strong rumour.

I fully expect something like a 377bhp as then all the new purchases of WR1's and 2005 spec cars get stiffed again on residuals

Then the ones who buy the 377bhp one get stiffed as the new shape scoob comes out lol!

Progress who needs it!

Ditto the comment above regarding weight. If they could get the weight back down it would become a superb car! At the moment manufacturers seem to be upping the cars power and when you work out the bhp/tonne it is no better due to being heavier!

GRIFF007

then go and make them reliable!!"!!!

GRIFF007

tooo troooo - POWER TO WEIGHT is what we need to hear not the usual con of - new year, new model, 10% more power (ps 15% more weight..)

The Fixer

If it does come here it'll be the same 2.5 Turbo STi that the US already gets. The newage cars engines and transmissions will sit at 400 HP/ftlb's all year long.

SPEN555

Conrad,

A year's no good, it needs to last 3 years to get outside the warranty, then it can blow up and no comeback on IM/Subaru.

GRIFF007

whatever it is - it will need to go head to head with the 400bhp Evo....

Mmmm, fully sorted, warranted STi with near on 400bhp---- yes please!

AndyC_772

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I don't see the need to compete with the FQ-400. It's expensive, it's a limited run, and the reviews I've read suggest that it's got a peaky power delivery that makes it difficult (or at least, uncomfortable) to drive. It may be a Top Trumps winner and good pub talk, but is it going to cost Subaru many sales? I doubt it.

That said, I wouldn't be complaining about a 2.5l 350bhp+ STI - provided that in the quest to chase headline power figures and compete on paper with the FQ-400, it doesn't lose out on reliability and flexibility.

GRIFF007

You took the words...

chris's scooby

Lets hope it comes out as a standard car, not a PPP ungrade, then young people like me will be able to get it insured easily.

Bodgery

??? PPP or not, I don't think young people are going to find it too easy to get insurance on 350BHP car....nor should they. Don't fancy meeting some twerp with v.limited driving experience coming the other way showing off.

chris's scooby

Quite true. What i meant but didn't put across very well is for someone in their mid 20's, the WR1 is cheaper to insure than an STi with a PPP on it.

Beastie

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My cheque book is awaiting....... EVO 8 MR340 currently cancelled.
However, seems like everyone has been wanting a 2.5 from at least 1997 Why has it taken so long (If it does happen) and will it have a rear wiper and foldable mirrors? or will we need to wait another 10 years before they are added

Well IM if you are out there, i am holding on to MY99 until you do up the stakes , however, i will be looking at the EVO 9 MR340 to see if the interior has got better and if it is, before you are ready, you know where my cash will be going............

Bodgery

fair point.

T5NYW

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LOL Top Trumps

Agreed, Many peeps who have Tested/review the FQ400 said, bar on a Track the FQ340 is the quicker car in the real world.

Tony