Looking at STI Type-R - what should I check?
23 June 2004, 08:41 AM
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Looking at STI Type-R - what should I check?
Hi folks
My name's Jim (obviously) and I'm considering getting a WRX STI Type-R. I may be going to view it this weekend but it's a good 2 hour drive away...
What should I be looking for/checking? It's a 1996 P reg with 50k(ish) on the clock and although the current owners says he doesn't have FHS he does have loads of receipts.
Some pointers would be much appreciated.
Ta
Jim
My name's Jim (obviously) and I'm considering getting a WRX STI Type-R. I may be going to view it this weekend but it's a good 2 hour drive away...
What should I be looking for/checking? It's a 1996 P reg with 50k(ish) on the clock and although the current owners says he doesn't have FHS he does have loads of receipts.
Some pointers would be much appreciated.
Ta
Jim
23 June 2004, 09:20 AM
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Make sure it has the cam belt service carried out (45k) - its an expensive service. These cars must have oil changes in line with the service schedule every 7,500 or 6 months - and many do this more frequently.
It is also imperative that the correct oil is used at servicing. A good question to ask if the car was self maintained - is an explanation of how the oil change was performed with regard to priming of the oil system.
It is also imperative that the correct oil is used at servicing. A good question to ask if the car was self maintained - is an explanation of how the oil change was performed with regard to priming of the oil system.
23 June 2004, 09:33 AM
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it seems lots of car enthiusiats own jap market cars, and lots of enthiuasts do work themselves, now this isn always a bad thing as these people tend to look after them probably better than people who use main delaers in my opinion, so you need to find out if its neglect or diy tlc.
check for regular oil changes and receipts for parts for serviicng at regular intervals. Ask where he has been getting the jdm parts from. and check for what kind of oil has been used ect.
you should easily be able to tell if its neglected or looked after, again check for cambelt as this is a pain to do. at 50k if it was replaced at 45k he should have the receipt and it should still look pretty new if fitted.
check for regular oil changes and receipts for parts for serviicng at regular intervals. Ask where he has been getting the jdm parts from. and check for what kind of oil has been used ect.
you should easily be able to tell if its neglected or looked after, again check for cambelt as this is a pain to do. at 50k if it was replaced at 45k he should have the receipt and it should still look pretty new if fitted.
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Cheers folks -
The details I have so far are:
It was imported in 1997, current owner has had it for 1 year
55,000 miles
Some history, but unspecified as yet
Tracker
Mint body & interior
New front tyres, Rears will ast 2 months or so.
No I.C.E.
Private sale at £10,900 ono
18" wheels and the "bigger, more bulgy" spoiler
Anyone near Peterborough fancy being a good samaritan and meeting me on Saturday morning to help an ignoramus (i.e. me
) look it over?
Jim
The details I have so far are:
It was imported in 1997, current owner has had it for 1 year
55,000 miles
Some history, but unspecified as yet
Tracker
Mint body & interior
New front tyres, Rears will ast 2 months or so.
No I.C.E.
Private sale at £10,900 ono
18" wheels and the "bigger, more bulgy" spoiler
Anyone near Peterborough fancy being a good samaritan and meeting me on Saturday morning to help an ignoramus (i.e. me
) look it over?Jim
23 June 2004, 12:03 PM
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I always changed all 4 tires at the same time. To prevent any strain on the transmission/differential - but that opinion may not be widely held.
23 June 2004, 12:38 PM
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Jim, there are some Type R which are NOT STI. An STI Type R will have a red engine, a carbon fibre strut brace, tinted rear windows, STI logos of one description or another on the front seats, an intercooler waterspray and a diff control dial. The WRX Type R will not have these.
It's confusing, although both cars are WRX, only the STI has been to STI and had the mods listed above, the WRX Type R is simply a 2 door version.
It's confusing, although both cars are WRX, only the STI has been to STI and had the mods listed above, the WRX Type R is simply a 2 door version.
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seems far too expensive for what it is
a 97 version 3?
i sold my version 5 type r with 30k on the clock for 11900 with fsh and loads of extras
wouldnt even touch it at that price with lack of service history
resale value will be hit
look elsewhere....nothing is selling so you will pick up a bargain
a 97 version 3?
i sold my version 5 type r with 30k on the clock for 11900 with fsh and loads of extras
wouldnt even touch it at that price with lack of service history
resale value will be hit
look elsewhere....nothing is selling so you will pick up a bargain
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Apparently it has 555 emblems on the front seats...
I know what you're saying about it being overpriced but have a look at how many 2 door Imprezas are on Autotrader, especially ones in Sonic Blue (which is the colour I reeeeeally want).
There is another going for same price but I don't have any info on that one yet...
I know what you're saying about it being overpriced but have a look at how many 2 door Imprezas are on Autotrader, especially ones in Sonic Blue (which is the colour I reeeeeally want).
There is another going for same price but I don't have any info on that one yet...
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and if you ring em all up i guarantee you hardly any will have sold
i had mine in autotrader for a month before i sold at a realistic price
be patient danielson
a 97 with 55k on the clock without fsh is not worth 10900ono
i would offer 9k take it or leave it for that type of car
i had mine in autotrader for a month before i sold at a realistic price
be patient danielson
a 97 with 55k on the clock without fsh is not worth 10900ono
i would offer 9k take it or leave it for that type of car
23 June 2004, 01:54 PM
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I have one of the Type R's which is non STI, i will try to impart my knowledge, which anyone who knows more is free to correct
The non STI version was a japanese WRX which was the only WRX 2 door version, it does not have the driver controlled diff, it does not have the water spray, it does not have the red engine, it does not have the carbon strut brace.
However, it does have a plaque declaring its number in the build, 234/1000 in my case, mine is a 98my as a version 4 it have a plaque on the boot which matches the front seats stating that subaru were WRC manufacturing champions in 95,95,97 it has a green laural reef around the emblem, it also has Type R is small letters under the right rear light
It also has white dials
The Limited versions have a roof vent, like mine.
Mine also has A/C and ABS
These are the things that i have noticed which are worth looking for:
The bonnet should be aluminium, mine is and i think if you prang it and fix it on the sly you could end up with a steel version
The windows seem to move on their rails slightly and a bit of foam they slide on wears and scratches the glass, rather annoying
It should also have power folding mirrors, if not, why??
Check for hot brake judder, a few spirited stops to check its not pulling and then a lightish application should show up an imminent disc change being on the cards
also try down shifting quickly and using the engine braking to rev the engine up, its not good practice but it shows up if the rear diff and subframe bushes need changing as you get a double bang and it all bottoms out, not too expensive to fix but more hassle and cost to you
do the usual checks for gaps and and paint overspray, make sure everything opens and closes and works, dont be scared to leave it idling to check the fan operates and then see if it hot starts etc all the usual checks for smoke
AND final one, make sure it is stone cold when you get there, touch the exhaust manifold (carefully) if not he is trying to hide a piston slap problem, when they are cold (mine does it) they sound slightly diesel like, its the piston rattling in its bore, not the end of the world, but he is not being honest with you
Bear in mind if the car is the non STI it is still 270bhp mine is and its standard and more than enough for ruining your license
on a random note, i believe (only a belief so if someone knows better please tell me) the Type Rs are Rally blue not sonic blue
top cars though so enjoy and be careful
Ray
I have one of the Type R's which is non STI, i will try to impart my knowledge, which anyone who knows more is free to correct
The non STI version was a japanese WRX which was the only WRX 2 door version, it does not have the driver controlled diff, it does not have the water spray, it does not have the red engine, it does not have the carbon strut brace.
However, it does have a plaque declaring its number in the build, 234/1000 in my case, mine is a 98my as a version 4 it have a plaque on the boot which matches the front seats stating that subaru were WRC manufacturing champions in 95,95,97 it has a green laural reef around the emblem, it also has Type R is small letters under the right rear light
It also has white dials
The Limited versions have a roof vent, like mine.
Mine also has A/C and ABS
These are the things that i have noticed which are worth looking for:
The bonnet should be aluminium, mine is and i think if you prang it and fix it on the sly you could end up with a steel version
The windows seem to move on their rails slightly and a bit of foam they slide on wears and scratches the glass, rather annoying
It should also have power folding mirrors, if not, why??
Check for hot brake judder, a few spirited stops to check its not pulling and then a lightish application should show up an imminent disc change being on the cards
also try down shifting quickly and using the engine braking to rev the engine up, its not good practice but it shows up if the rear diff and subframe bushes need changing as you get a double bang and it all bottoms out, not too expensive to fix but more hassle and cost to you
do the usual checks for gaps and and paint overspray, make sure everything opens and closes and works, dont be scared to leave it idling to check the fan operates and then see if it hot starts etc all the usual checks for smoke
AND final one, make sure it is stone cold when you get there, touch the exhaust manifold (carefully) if not he is trying to hide a piston slap problem, when they are cold (mine does it) they sound slightly diesel like, its the piston rattling in its bore, not the end of the world, but he is not being honest with you
Bear in mind if the car is the non STI it is still 270bhp mine is and its standard and more than enough for ruining your license
on a random note, i believe (only a belief so if someone knows better please tell me) the Type Rs are Rally blue not sonic blue
top cars though so enjoy and be careful
Ray
23 June 2004, 05:33 PM
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come to watford instead and buy my 98 sti type r with 37k on the clock for 12k
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I wondered why he didn't respond to my reply.. if he was looking at that car for £10'900 he would be mad not to look at mine for 12... he just started another thread waffling on about 2 other cars.....
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Originally Posted by type-r-stan
I wondered why he didn't respond to my reply.. if he was looking at that car for £10'900 he would be mad not to look at mine for 12... he just started another thread waffling on about 2 other cars.....
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