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Old 18 February 2004, 09:46 PM
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Does anyone know where there the 3 door type r imprezas are for sale?
Old 18 February 2004, 11:31 PM
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Don't know about 3 door, 2 door you proberly mean. Best place to try is the Autotrader website, Top marque and look in the for sale forum.

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Old 18 February 2004, 11:53 PM
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Are you looking at buying one Chaos?

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Old 19 February 2004, 12:06 AM
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I wanted to get an idea of prices and availability. Doesn't seem to promising at the mo...
Old 19 February 2004, 12:15 PM
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There was one in Jap performance
Old 19 February 2004, 04:31 PM
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Try www.neweraimports.com, got mine from them excellent service. They have one on there site at the moment.
Old 19 February 2004, 04:59 PM
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Chaos, why does it have to be a 2 door coupe?

The basic 4 or 5 door models are perfectally driveable

Also and I may be incorrect but teh Type R's are not really best suited to the road as they are made for track use hence long gearing (or short can't remember which ) the ride, the noise

Also the servicing on any Scooby is crazy

Not trying to put you off but the above are just some of a reason that I have postponded the purchase. That and insurance
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Old 19 February 2004, 05:02 PM
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Hi there,

What sort of price range and age are you lookimg for? Part ex etc?

The Subaru Type R's are a great car, 2 doors, driver control centre diff etc etc and look superb.........

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Old 19 February 2004, 05:06 PM
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has he got a job yet?
Old 19 February 2004, 05:07 PM
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Jst the site I was looking for.

Lots of nice motors on there.
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The basic 4 or 5 door models are perfectally driveable
Not as sporty though.

has he got a job yet?
No, but that doesn't mean I don't have money
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virtual money for window shopping doesnt count
Old 19 February 2004, 05:28 PM
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Im 2 grand short of the one on neweraimports. Not looking to buy just yet however!
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Chaos, you from St.Helens?????

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Old 19 February 2004, 06:23 PM
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St. helens would be about 15 miles away from here..

why you ask?

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Chaos, the header of your post and some of the comments further down the thread are a little ambiguous.

Are you looking to buy a WRX Type R or a WRX STi Type R?

These are two different cars and the differences are important. The WRX STi Type R's are more powerful and have additional bits - like the electronic centre diff and intercooler water spray, that the WRX Type R doesn't...
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Whats the difference? 30+ BHP?
Just to clear things up, what does STi mean, is it a company that tunes them? Confusing..

Does the electronic diff let you choose between 2 and 4WD? I don't know an awful lot about them..

edit - what does wrx mean?

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Old 19 February 2004, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chaos.
Whats the difference? 30+ BHP?
Just to clear things up, what does STi mean, is it a company that tunes them? Confusing..

Does the electronic diff let you choose between 2 and 4WD? I don't know an awful lot about them..

edit - what does wrx mean?

The later models are both rated at 280PS = 276bhp. The STI has a higher rev limiter and also a higher torque figure. In the case of the MY00 its 249lb/ft for the WRX and 260lb/ft for the STi. The STi normally has a few extra goodies WI, DCCD, quickrack, STI ECU and a blueprinted engine.

It was rumoured that the last of the classic WRXs were about 280PS but the STi were closer to 300PS.

sti = subaru technica industries (subaru in house tuning division)
wrx = world rally cross = world rally experience = world rally extreme

take your pick

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Old 19 February 2004, 09:11 PM
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Whats the difference? 30+ BHP?
About 20bhp, but there's far more to it than just that. The electronic centre diff gives a driver-adjustable, fundamentally rear-biased torque split that gives much more positive handling. The engine revs more freely, and there's a shorter ratio gearbox to get the most out of it.

Just to clear things up, what does STi mean, is it a company that tunes them?
Yes and no. It's theoretically a separate department at Subaru that's responsible for tuning the higher end roadcars. Think of it as the Subaru equivalent of the BMW "M-" department and you're not too far away. Think of the WRX Type R as a BMW 3- series coupe, and the WRX STi Type R as an M3 coupe...

[quote] Does the electronic diff let you choose between 2 and 4WD?
No, but you're thinking along the right lines. The car is always 4WD, but the DCCD allows you to adjust the way the centre differential splits the power off. You can use it to make the car more oversteery under power/unstable under braking, or, at the opposite end of the scale, more understeery/more stable under braking.
Old 19 February 2004, 09:19 PM
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Think of the WRX Type R as a BMW 3- series coupe, and the WRX STi Type R as an M3 coupe...
Sort of and I can see where you are coming from but it probably more like an m3 and an m3 csl
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Chaos, do you have any idea how much these cost to run and service? Are you aware that imports are only supposed to be run on Optimax?

Servicing - 1 big service (£200) and one big one (£500) per year and that is minor servicing, major services are shocking.

Darren

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Old 19 February 2004, 11:24 PM
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If anyones after a wrx sti type r, i know of a minter thats coming for sale soon.

Adrian

pm me if you are interested




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Sort of and I can see where you are coming from but it probably more like an m3 and an m3 csl
Old 19 February 2004, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by darlodge
Are you aware that imports are only supposed to be run on Optimax?
Er, wrong answer, big-time. Japanese market imports need to be run on Optimax plus the correct amount of a good octane booster, unless

a) They have been remapped to run safely on UK fuel
b) You are running a KnockLink and thus know your car isn't detting.
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The later sti type r is rated at 300 ps mine made 309 bhp with both cats so 276 is a bit below.STi is the better car IMO as it has DCCD and all the extra toys.2 door is defo the best loking scoob and the type r/ra is the best performing scoob to date
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greasemonkey,

Appolgies for the wrong answer, but I was part way there

Darren

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Old 21 February 2004, 06:22 AM
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STi stands for Subaru Technica International

early type ra cars to June '96 (i think) had sand cast closed deck blocks, forged pistions, wild cams, ported heads, solid lifters, fifth injector etc etc and are still supposedly the best engines/car to get if tuning for big power.

i'm fortunate enough to have just had one fitted to my MY95 WRX, but am still running it in and have FMIC and a whole host of other performance goodies inc. ECU remap, fueling mods and so on, so can't quite comment on standard performance.

however, i trust you're looking for a later model car - this will more than likely have a die cast open deck block - still very tuneable and quick none the less!

Kev

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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
The later sti type r is rated at 300 ps mine made 309 bhp with both cats so 276 is a bit below.
The only place they are mentioned at 300PS is the SIDC FAQ, which is wrong. They are still 280PS on 100RON and on UK fuel make around 265-270BHP genuine in standard trim.
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Originally Posted by darlodge

Also and I may be incorrect but teh Type R's are not really best suited to the road as they are made for track use hence long gearing (or short can't remember which ) the ride, the noise

Also the servicing on any Scooby is crazy
Darren
You are incorrect Daren, sounds like you havnt driven one to me.

Imports cost no more to service than UK spec cars, quite often they are cheaper to maintain because you aren't paying main dealer service costs.
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Independant TypeR Servicing can be as little as £80 for a minor 3000k service or as much as £280 for a Major service excl cam belt (full service + Oil + filter + fuel filter + my provided plugs + replace antifreeze + replace brake fluid + replace gearbox oil + replace rear diff oil + labour).

I don't think you could see those prices at a main dealer !!!!

And as for an everyday car, apart from the number of doors, I don't think the STi-RA and R are very much different in terms of noticable road manners.

best places to look for a typeR are on this very BBS site in the for sale sections...
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Try WRX.co.uk http://www.wrx.co.uk/

They are the - home of WRX Imports, the South West's leading used Subaru supplier.

We import top quality cars from Japan and search the UK to suit your requirements. You can order your dream car with deposit of only £500.

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