jrrs1

(this is also posted in General Techncial too)

Ok, sorry guys, but i need to get this clear in my head!
(sorry if this is the wrong place for this post, but i figured the tech details would be the difference!?)

So i checked the FAQ, its says 'coming soon'?, so i have to ask.

Whats the difference? ( classic models only, so not to confuse things even more.!)

OK so - please add your details to the post and cut and past the content again, if we get this right it can be used to go into the FAQ, to stop this painful process again?

UK

STI

STI Type r

Type RA - i think is 'race altered' but what does it have sepcial?

555

Terzo- blue only?

Cataluyna - black only?

RB5- grey only etc?

RB5 WR,

22b- rare ish 400 only, flared arch, 2.2. ltr?

What am i missing?


(ps- will post in general discussion too)

16vmarc

Suppose you could give PPP a mention, altho its not a model!

chris singleton

Series McRae - black only

Scoobybits

missing??? p1 for starters!!
hows about v ltd..??
any more???

16vmarc

S202?

Scuba

P1

Sonic blue
276bhp
best looking (if not 22B)

16vmarc

Standard WRX?

Scoobybits

beat ya too it scuba!!
deffo my favorite aswell p1!!

Andy McCord

look here mate FAQ

Scooby Snacks 23

Series McRae was blue wasn't it

ragnarock2

UK - Main facelift 1997/98, changed from Phase 1 to phase 2 engine same year. 4dr saloon/5dr hatch

STI - STi Blueprinted engine. 6 Versions on Classic, 6=99/00, 5=98/99, 4=97/98, 3=96/97, 2=95/96, 2=94/95, 1=93/94. 4dr saloon/5dr hatch, later versions came with 276Bhp. Folding Mirrors

STI Type r - STi Blueprinted engine, 2dr bodyshell, IC waterspray, DCCD diff control, from version IV onwards (possibly versIII onwards??) 276Bhp, low ratio short shift gear box. Folding Mirrors. No ABS

Type RA - i think is 'race altered' but what does it have sepcial? Lightweight model, 4dr saloon, DCCD, IC waterspray, (stereo, AC, electric windows not standard equip) Folding Mirrors, No ABS

555

Terzo- blue only? 1997 special edition, 333 made

Cataluyna - black only?

RB5- grey only etc? 1999 special edition, commemerating Richard Burns rally wins, same spec as UK car, in special Gunmetal grey colour (also available on STI's)

RB5 WR,WR version available with PPP kit, and prodrive spoiler

22b- rare ish 400 only, flared arch, 2.2. ltr? Hand made panels, DCCD, IC waterspray.

P1 - UK car based on STi Type R (i.e. 2 dr bodyshell), no IC waterspray, no DCCD, but has ABS, available in sonic blue only, 276BHp

Sti Electra One - dunno much about it (availabilty etc)

[Edited by ragnarock2 - 11/26/2003 4:09:28 PM]

catalunya199

catalunya black mica has red flicks going through it only 200 made

looks like all the classics as standard with 15" gold wheels,ac,ew,em,carbon fibre effect on the dash built in 97 so they are p & r plates

Jimmy Dell

WRX SA.

Katana

Type RA- Stupid gear ratio with stupid fuel consumptions thanks to stupid gear ratios. Did I mention about the stupid gear ratio again? Or the fifth injector that allegedly dont work..

scooby-si

22b only 290/300 left the best scooby ever

p1 2nd
type R 3rd

Rasher

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[Edited by Rasher - 11/27/2003 8:27:28 AM]

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

Beg to differ on the P1 being better than type R.Type R is superior in many ways ,and the only thing the 22B has that a type r dont is flared arches

[Edited by scooby-tc - 11/27/2003 9:44:16 AM]

peccy

0-60's

UK = 5.6

STI = 4.6

STI Type r = 4.3

Type RA - = 4.3

555 = ?

Terzo = 5.6 (same as uk)

Cataluyna = 5.6

RB5 = 5.6

RB5 WR = bit less

22b = 5.0

P1 = 4.6

peccy

the P1 is a uk friendly version of the jap sti5 type r, not quite as fast or fun or as many gadgets

scooby_si

& dont forget a 22B has a heavier engine than a type R
Si

Adam M

scoobies si and tc,

the ej22 weighs less than the ej20, 22b pistnos weigh slightly more, but the non 22b block weighs more than the piston difference.

We are talking about a matter of grams.

there is also more to the 22b than just the engine. We have different wings, different track (6cm wider at the front 10cm at the back) different hubs, magnesium alloy 8.5 inch wide wheels.

quick rack steering, guaranteed closed deck block, hand assembled and seem welded.

With regard to 0-60 figures, please take them all with a pinch of salt.

The 22B came in two guises, UK (longer gearing) and JDM, 0-60 of the JDM should be quicker. Tests by driven on anders car which was standard but for a backbox yielded 3.8 seconds when repeated throughout the day.

I don't see how a 22B can be rated as having a slower 0-60 than a type r when it has more torque, more traction and weighs very slightly less. It should suggest that these figures shown are spurious.

I remember stef getting a 4 sec 0-60 in an almost standard UK car.

peccy

did quite of bit of research into all the classic models when bought my type r last month, espcailly the version 6 type r limited, 22b and p1 as i reckoned these were the best of the classic bunch? found some interesting stuff, such as the later versions sti5 and 6 were found to produce more power and more torque then the ealier 22b...

more info about sti's and other models here... http://www.iwoc.co.uk/22b.html

peccy

JDM scooby models

scooby-si

scooby-tc

you forgot the 2.2 m8

scooby_si

you can get them on any type R with the money you saved
Si (getting coat )

jrrs1

Si, glad to see your a fellow mondeo driver...

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

Ive driven a 22B on track and i didnt enjoy it at all which is the reason i opted for the type R.Clutch is awful on 22B and the steering was too twitchy for my liking but each to their own eh,22B doesnt justify an extra 15k of anyones money exclusive or not

<prepares for onslaught>

scooby_si

har 1.8 of ford's finest lol.
22B beater on it's way thou (que the scooby-si onslaught can i borrow yer flame suit?lmao)
Si