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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Hi Just to say hello.

Just swapped my stage one R32 GTR skyline for an STi 3 type R with a 2.2 autosportif engine/hybrid turbo/group N gearbox. The car drives BEAUTIFULLY I am so impressed with the mid range torque compared to the stage one skylines I have had (all arounf 400bhp). The guy from Autosportif tells me the engine is around 380bhp, which is impressive for the old flat 4!
Still its a more sensible car than my other motor - a 600bhp R32 GTR Skyline!

Really great car, only thing I really dont like is a bit of a lack of steering feel - could I rectify this by fitting the original springs? (it has lowering springs at the moment)

I am a Scooby convert!

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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Welcome!
Sorry I can't answer your question but I'm sure someone will.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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welcome!

When you mean "feel" on the steering do you mean it's too light? If so, I'd doubt changing the springs would make any difference. In standard form its pretty vaigue and wishy washy
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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Anthony,
get yourself along to our Dorset meet next Monday, it's at the Horton inn just north of Wimborne, check out the southern forum for more info.

Ron.

ps welcome!!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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Cheers.

Yes the steering is too light and lacks feel.
Dont remember the other Scooby's I have driven feeling quite the light and lacking in feeling though.
I mean I know its got loads of grip but cornering fast feels a bit like a leap of faith.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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The feel is sh1te. It doesn't inspire confidence at speed.
It's my only gripe with the car.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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Maybe the geometry needs doing, mine just tells me to drive faster!!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:10 AM
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Whiteline makes some bushes for the steering rack that have been very popular. Also the ALK, which adds some extra caster as well as adding some extra rigidity thanks to a stiffer bushing.

Demon Tweeks has them, as do some other retailers (try the Scooby Shop?).

Many report very good results when combined with geometry work done by specialists.

HTH

Oh, and congrats on the purchase, hope it serves you well
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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One way to get used to the steering AJFleming is to borrow a car with even lighter steering...I highly recommend a mid 80's Jag XJS.

Then after driving that, jump into scoob, and hey presto, heavier, more feel and more direct!

You do get used to it, but I know what you mean. I don't think it really needs power steering, I've rolled it down a hill (long story ) without the engine running, and the steering felt perfect. But then I am used to driving 60's Landies and early 80's porkies
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Cheers guys.
Who do you recomend for setting up the geometry (close to me)?
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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Hi and welcome.

As for feeling light on the classic - I've found this can be due to light weight wheels, such OZ Super Ls. Some like this, some don't... What wheels have you got?

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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OZ's!!! Super L's I think!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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if i'm correct, ur car should be in banana yellow!!!

yep. ur wheels should be supr L's 17". that is one tremendous car.

next upgrades as i've always mentioned to the previous owner are a set of uprated brakes and geometry to improve steering feel as it does get wobbly during corners.

enjoy!
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Thats the one. It is currently being tastefully de-yellowed
eg the interior is having all of the colour set to black, the yellow twin headlights are going, the paintwork (where it was resprayed BADLY from light yellow to darker yellow) is getting sorted, its been de stickered and I am getting some DBA discs for the front. Also going to set the suspension height back to standard if pos (standard springs - will that be okay with OZ's for clearance?) and getting the geometry sorted out.

I am a trader, so I will not spend too much on it, but I really like the car so I will probably keep it for a little while.

Anthony.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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i think the springs on the car are eibachs, which will not differ much from std sti springs in terms of height but does give firmer ride compared to sti items.

if u do change it, the OZs will be fine but why not source for a set of original 16" black alloys circa 200. this should probably solve the steering feel but will have more tyre roll compared to the OZs.

i kept the std 16" on my old type R, similar to yours coz i bought mine when kenny bought his, coz i took the view that the design of the srpings and wheels for the car should stay std.

kenny went for power but i went for handling, still kicked his **** during some private runs tho. straight line i'm always smelling his exhaust fumes, superb torque. but........

when it comes to late braking and cornering, no match for my brembos and fully struted up rally-wannabe-car, not to mention more mental driving.

quite sure u'll enjoy the car.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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i have an sti 4 and i know what you mean...the steering is light compaired with my UK car....still grips like hell...might be due to the stiffness of the chassis?


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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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the type r 2 door body shell is deffo stiffer than 4 door sti. with similar power, u'll feel that the type r is more rigid and corners better.

went from 93wrx to 95sti to 97 type R. enjoyed the R most on track esp power slides. it corners and grip better assuming all other constant eg tyres, suspension set up.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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Most people on here recommend Power Station (Gloucester) for geometry work.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Powerstation are definately one of the best suspension tuners out there. Get their 'Bumpsteer mod' done and the four wheel alignment done and you wouldn't believe the difference, the turn-in is phenomenal, even more so when you have solid drop-links fitted. The Anti-lift kit makes quite a difference to the feel aparently, although I hav'nt had this done yet.

www.powerstation.org.uk

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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How does the adjustable center differential settings work? I mean its a bitch to turn when going slow when its set forward. Which would be about 50% front/50% rear torque? I guess diff lock mode is for gravel /off road driving but what about the other settings?!?! How do I find out more about this?
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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there's an article by John F on how to use the diff.

to summarise, always let it run at natural 64R/36F (where the light is green)

for winter adjust up 1 or 2 notches for more power to the front,no more tho.

but dont use full lock 50/50 unless on rolling road or rallying that's what i understand. i'll try to find the article and if not, quite sure someone here will be able to help dig it out.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Cool, have you got a link to that article?

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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found it!

diff control

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Cheers, that is brilliant.
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