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Old 21 October 2003, 07:02 PM
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Well, Ultimate is well and truly here, out and about on friday in Warrington when I stumbled across the BP garage at Birchwood. Lo and behold, stickers and signs everywhere for Ultimate!! WOOHOO I thought, looking at the petrol gauge (usual position, quarter to nine!!!). So in i pop and fill up to the brim. £40 quid later i'm back on the road and heading into town. I went literally 100 yards before THAT thought popped into my head, 'You know what, it feels smoother already!!' How embarrased was i, how easily had i fallen for the hype? I don't doubt this new stuff is better than the old stuff (something to do with Ron, think he invented it) but i think in the case of myself (and others, go on admit it) it's a case of wanting it to work and thinking that it does. Now don't get me wrong, anything that stops MY97 from going pop is good in my book, but does anyone actually know if there is any quantifiable advantage to paying between 5-8p a litre more for fuel? Just a thought (perhaps i'll ring Ron at BP!)
Old 21 October 2003, 08:31 PM
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Chris,

LOOK at this and i used the same garage as you. What do you drive mate. Reg isn't B*GLY is it? lol

You need to join the tumbleweed club mate, i have the forms here
Old 21 October 2003, 08:43 PM
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Myself and several others have had a noticeable increase in Knock Activity on a tank of this Ultimate stuff

Not another drop is going in my tank

standard SUL was better than this
Old 21 October 2003, 10:55 PM
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Wierd, one of the guys round here is getting considerably lower knock readings on his Power FC since fueling with Ultimate.

My cars of the road so haven't tested it myself.
Old 22 October 2003, 01:10 AM
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From the horses mouth.

It is only rated 97 to replace the SUL.Only difference is cleaner/smoother burn ALLEGEDLY.

READ ALL ABOUT IT
Old 22 October 2003, 01:27 AM
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Placebo! Why???

Well the ecu on the MY97/98 cars take much longer to advance the timing and really utilise the additional octane (3-4 tanks!!) An ECU reset will take it to the maximum advance, and retard the timing accordingly. So unless you did an ECU reset before you left the petrol station, I would be surprised if you could notice any difference!

ECU's on the MY99/00 take much less time to learn, but it would still need time to learn! Or an ECU rest!
Old 22 October 2003, 07:52 AM
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'Placebo? Why?'

A placebo is something which is used in medical tests to see if results gained are psychological rather than medicinal (i think they are usually something like sugar tablets etc). Therefore if a fuel company tells us their fuel will make our cars run better and smoother a small proportion of us will agree straight away because we believe it psychologically!! Guess who the sucker is?

Buzzer! Mines a white MY97 in desperate need of colour coding, you might see me flying down Winick Road or around Cockhedge (always makes me giggle!!). If in doubt i'll be the one with cap on backwards and scooby on rear parcel shelf!! (Work hard, Play hard!!)

Old 22 October 2003, 08:11 AM
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Well the ecu on the MY97/98 cars take much longer to advance the timing
Actually its Pre MY97 MY97 onwards had improved reaction
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Chris

I've seen you about (minus the baseball cap though), but you didn't wave last time i saw you and i posted in the Was it you section and i got tumbleweeded for it!


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LOL Chris.. did just the same a week ago... since then put in Optimax... can i tell any difference... no

STILL GOES LIKE STINK

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