TON3

Well they reckon 2005 b4 they launch the ford focus cosworth, which im sure will be produced, after the mad rush 2 buy the rs there onto a sure fire winner! That will be my next purchase and it will definately give the scoob and evo a run 4 there money!

[Edited by TON3 - 8/6/2003 9:42:17 AM]

corradoboy

Not quite in the same league but the Skoda Octavia vRS isn't at all bad. With the TT 1.8 turbo (185bhp) and 4WD for around £16k it's quite a bargain. I'm sure all the TT mods will drop straight on too.

Still rather have a Scoob tho'

Edited to say "I'm very sorry for mentioning the TT on this BBS"

[Edited by corradoboy - 8/6/2003 7:53:40 PM]

Boyakasha

iTrader: (2)

Dream on, it's a good car but not that good

[Edited by Boyakasha - 8/7/2003 10:30:55 AM]

ianmiller999

It seems to me that only subaru with their impreza and Mitsubushi with their evo, are the only car companys making cars with this performance for such a low price.

Neil Smalley

I'm not so sure anymore. Ford with the Focus RS(admittedly limted run), VW with the Golf R32, Renault with the Clio 172(inc cup), BMW with mini cooper S, Honda with the Civic type R and Alfa with the 147 GTA.

Now some of them might not have the BHP but all of them will give a standard WRX a run for it's money in the average day on the roads.

compshack

I've just sold an Focus RS. It was faster than the standard WRX and I would say seemed as fast as the WRX with PPP. The Civic Type r (which I've also owned) is quick of the mark being normally asperated but you had to rev upto 6k to hit the power band.

Duck_Pond

Back in the 80s, the launch of the Golf GTi started a new generation of hot hatches. The likes of Pug's 205 and 309 GTi caused a stir, as did the insane Renault 5 Turbo. Plus there were the faster bigger cars like the Quattro.

However, with all these looney cars about, being afforded by younger drivers, crashes and thefts sent insurance premiums soaring, and after a while, no-one bothered with these cars, and manufacturers stopped making them.

Thus resulting in a barren few years with sod all cars of any interest.

Does anyone reckon that today's explosion of hot hatches will cause a repeat of the same problem? Are we headed for a recession of fast, exciting cars?

Duck.

ianmiller999

Maybe I am just anti ford but they don't really have the same image and I was mainly considering family size cars.

{Shall I Duck}

TON3

Each to there own, but cosworth is a legend in its own right!

ARM-Scooby

I dont know if this is going to happen as many young people cant afford to run/ insure some of these cars with the everyday costs. Fair enough as a model becomes older and therefore cheaper it attracts people that once were unable to purchase it.

There are some cheaper alternaives to the scoob i think, e.g. the clio is quick, but smaller. The RS may be quicker on a normal road but isnt scoob meant for the back roads, with bends that normally upset these other cars. No other manufactures a car that matches or attempts to match its WRC car other than scoob and the mitsi, no other AWD cars for the price that perform overall so well. RS4?? TT Quattro??

I have a lot of mates that keep up with my wrx but as soon as i get out in the sticks its see you later time.

ianmiller999

Ahh somebody seems to get my drift

Spudgun VI

mazda 6 mps... 2.3litre, turbo , and awd. coming soon apparently

chrisp

Focus is a family size car there is about the same room inside mine as my scoob.

ARM-Scooby

still not the full package though!!

Boro

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Even IF the above cars are somewhere near the performance of the scooby, lets face it, they come nowhere near in the looks department

pugoetru

well i have a legacy turbo wagon and very few cars will touch it on a real road straight line yes but thats not what these cars are for is it

had a good play with a 406 coupe the other day kept trying to overtake he gave up in the end my kids were laughing at him

ianc

The Octavia RS is FWD but only 15k...

(there is however a 4wd for 16k, same engine running less boost \ 150bhp standard)

Ian
(Octavia 4x4turbo, 222bhp )