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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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Just a quickie for those of you who might not be aware, information from a reliable source reveals that there has been an increase in insurance assessors attending track days recently.

And seen to be noting registration numbers of those taking part!!

Worthy of note all you track-day users.

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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good, anyone who crashes on a trackday and claims different is causing me to pay more.

if you cant afford the cove dont go.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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agree with Tiggs. If you make a fraudulent claim i hope you get screwed big style.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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I too agree with this line of thought, and hope this thread encourages those who do make false claims to seek the proper cover prior to messing things up for the rest of us.

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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Talking of Track cover I had a letter through today from Edgar Lawsons, Competive Car Insurance (The company I have always used saying the have a new owner but will be giving the same service THB IIRC

Don't break down at any F1 or Touring car events at Bristish race Circuits as Subaru Assistance don't come onto Race Circuit carparks

Also AA European Gold Recovery have an exclusion in their Policy of Nurburgring Area. So be carefull if you go to watch a DTM meet in Germany.

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Track days are expensive!!!!!
They cost fuel, a helmet, a set of tyres (not cheap!) and insurance!!!!!!!

Don't scrimp on the insurance bit. I agree with the others, if you are going to track it then get cover. We are all big boys and know the score.... this is not the kevvy Corsa club!

Greenlight Insurance does track day cover for £65 a go (IIRC)

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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Greenlight Insurance does track day cover for £65 a go (IIRC)
Only if you already have a policy with them I think....

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Your premiums are already going to go up to pay for the overtime of the assessor's attending tracks on weekends.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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one bloke on overtime is not a large cost, one **** pranging his evo 11 is a large cost.

when i tracked my R1 i cancelled all insurance as the cost was so high (it cost me about 15k a yr to do it anyway and insurance on top was to much) HOWEVER, if i threw it into a wall i would have walked away)
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Never bothered with it before.

It's big boys toys, if you break it - you have to fix it.

However I am now covered as part of my normal policy.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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It's not just you and your 'toy' that could be affected if you have an off. It's the other guy that you might hit. No insurance and you're paying for his/car injuries too.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Well,

I went on a track day, crashed and claimed fully on my regular policy. Car was written off.

Took six months to personally fight my own legal battle, and I won, it wasnt excluded in my policy, so therefore i was covered. I got a full pay out too it wasnt a fun time believe me.

However, since this, I would be very surprised if any insurer now doesnt specifically state NOT COVERED FOR TRACK DAYS. My insurer at the time changed their policies literally days later to block the loop hole.

In my case it was an amateurs mistake, and I learned. Since then Ive taken professional instruction, passed my national race licence and atteneded many more track days and sprints.

Anyone who would now expect to turn up to a track day, crash and get regular cover would be an idiot - my crash was 3 years back, at this time track days were much less popular and they were really just immerging. My advice is get specific cover, and/or drive within your own limits.


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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Neil,

Track day insurance I have used in the past does not cover third parties. Has anyone hit another car and then had a claim against them by a third party? I would of thought that you would just take it on the chin and accept that it is a risk you take.

[Edited by sillysi - 6/13/2003 11:21:16 AM]
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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It's not just you and your 'toy' that could be affected if you have an off. It's the other guy that you might hit.
Wrong!
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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Wrong as in your not liable for the damage to a third party?
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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Wrong as in your not liable for the damage to a third party
That is my understanding.

In fact cars hitting other cars on track days is VERY rare.





[Edited by davyboy - 6/13/2003 11:32:48 AM]
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Ok, scratch that comment then

So personel injury claims for say reckless driving/poor maint of your car are'nt covered by insurance?

[Edited by Neil Smalley - 6/13/2003 11:34:58 AM]
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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I recieved a letter from Direct Line the other week and track days are now an expressed exclusion from their policies.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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you are on your own if you crash or are crashed into, you sign a waiver to specifically state you cannot claim against the organisors or anyone else at the event.

Note that standard Egger Lawson policies do not include engine/gearbox impact damage cover, if you stuff it head on they will only repair the bodywork. You can ask for engine impact damage cover to be added for a small fee, but you have to ask for it!!

With an engine costing more than most bodywork i strongly sugest you do pay the extra!
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