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Polo kept up with my Scoob on fast wet bumpy road....HOW?

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Old 03 January 2003, 12:22 AM
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Driver not the car



or could have been a well known Toyota Starlet



[Edited by *Sonic* - 3/1/2003 12:23:37 AM]
Old 03 January 2003, 08:18 AM
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VAG 1.8 Turbo engines are now being tuned to 300 - 350 bhp, combine that with the lightness of a Polo or Golf shell & that may explain what you saw.

[Edited by Stuart J - 3/1/2003 8:20:45 AM]
Old 01 March 2003, 12:17 AM
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The scene: 11pm, 2mile stretch of fast damp country road, couple of 100mph+ *very* bumpy straights, about 5 70-90mph corners.

Me: scoob UK my99 275bhp/265lb recent Toyo's + suspension tweeks. Recent owner, but with some past experience of performance cars.

I travel this stretch at least 4 times a day, so know it well. Scoob loves it.

The Story...........

Pootling home, saw a distant car approaching quickly in rear view, so (very immaturely) i slowed down to let him catch to show how the corners should be done. Car caught up, pootled along a bit more, then on the exit of the next corner, banged it down and let her fly, tyres squirming for grip, feeling the next straight suck me round the corner like a giant black hole. Hammered it down straight bouncing off rev limiter before changing up, down again and hammer it out the next corner foot to the floor on exit.

Kept glancing in rear view, but unknown car seemed to be sticking with me well - absolutely *impossible* i thought(done the same stretch in a Golf GTI & BMW mini cooper before, and they are almost flung off the bumps at 30mph less than speeds I was doing).....hmmph... 1st thought was it must be another Scoob. I was edging away fairly well on corner exits, but less so on the straights - after 1.5 miles he was only about 40m behind.

Finally came into village and slowed to 30mph - car turned off just a few 100yrds later. Keenly looking in the rear view mirror for what it was. It was dark, so I could'nt be sure, but it appeared to be an early Polo or Golf, definately a hatch with a few years on it, and looking fairly standard.

Can this be so, even power aside considering the bumpy & damp surface???

Ironically, experience left me very pleased as the Scoob behaved so impeccably at silly speeds, just a little perplexed with my sparring partner.

Conclusions:

Must have been a drunk racing driver in a heavily modded car with NOS, and the luck of the gods he didn't end up in the ditch.
Old 01 March 2003, 12:21 AM
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Well as NOS is illegal to use on the public highway i doubt it was that but it could have been a VR6 converted polo giving it mucho grippo on the front end but apart from that your tyres could still be rubbing in (doubt it though) so yup, a modified car by all standards afaik......

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Old 01 March 2003, 12:28 AM
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or Justy STI
Old 01 March 2003, 12:36 AM
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The road he went down is a dead-end estate, as it's only round the corner, I'll have a peek tomorrow, to see if I can shed some light.

It's probably IS a Starlet/Justy, and I'll be gutted.

I'm often sceptical about street sparring outcomes as I have healthy self-presevation - the quicker car is often the one being driven by the owner with bigger *****. But he was keeping up on the straights for gawds sake!!
Old 01 March 2003, 01:06 AM
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I'd guess a Lancia Delta Integrale.

PS Get your eyes checked
Old 01 March 2003, 02:06 AM
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I'd guess:
Integrale Evo (Visit Optician)
GTiR (Visit Optician)
Mk 3 Golf VR6 (Visit Self Service Spectacles Stand at Tesco)
Mk 2 Golf G60/VR6 (Ur safe!!)

There's a few nutz Golfs/Polos around with things like S/C'd VR6's and Twin engine's, but I don't think they're actually used much! Lol.
Old 01 March 2003, 08:47 AM
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Thought Scoobs were unbeatable on the wet bumpy twistie's There goes another myth! - Maybe it was a Focus RS (visit opticians) LOL
Old 01 March 2003, 08:52 AM
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Maybe it was e 6R4 or an 205 turbo 16, whatever you think abut it, he was capable of following you and that made him an expert driver...
Old 01 March 2003, 08:53 AM
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It's very difficult to shake a fully committed driver on twisty roads, irrespective of what's being driven.
Like you say, it usually comes down to the size of your cohones

Paul
Old 01 March 2003, 08:54 AM
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perhaps your a crap driver and he isn't
Old 01 March 2003, 08:56 AM
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LOL
Old 01 March 2003, 09:00 AM
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too true, i've had a similar run in with a few saxos, i'm driving fast but up to a point of not being dangerous to me or anyone else, these guys are probably redlining in every gear and sliding dangerously around each corner, just give it time and they'll find thier way into a ditch sooner or later which if you ask me is the best place for them!
Old 01 March 2003, 10:06 AM
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Well as NOS is illegal to use on the public highway
Only as much as radar detectors are illegal - i.e. lots of folk have NOS and use it, I know quite a few that use NOS on the public roads
Old 01 March 2003, 10:29 AM
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Just on the off-chance Walton you weren't towing a trailer with a polo on the back at the time?
Old 01 March 2003, 10:44 AM
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I have to say I find your experience quite funny Walton. Its a real "squelcher" when something like that happens. I have had a similar experience, not while I have had my Scoob, but with a pretty hot car. Certainly makes you wonder a bit! I bet he has posted all about it on another forum somwhere.

Les
Old 01 March 2003, 10:58 AM
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friend of mine had a Supercharged Polo. Quick and light. Think it was called a G40?
Old 01 March 2003, 11:13 AM
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about 12 years ago i got comprehensivly blown away on a b road i know fairly well

i was in my lanecer 2000 turbo chipped up to about 200 bhp and he was in a bog standard 1300 mk astra

mind you i found out he had a reputation as a complete loony and had already writen off 3 cars
Old 01 March 2003, 11:14 AM
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<Well as NOS is illegal to use on the public highway >
My astra's been fitted with Nitrous since 2000. Passed every MOT since then.
Nitrous is road leagal on cars. Not so road legal on bikes.
astraboy.
Old 01 March 2003, 11:23 AM
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some funny comments on this thread

'Must have been a drunk racing driver in a heavily modded car with NOS, and the luck of the gods he didn't end up in the ditch.'

Why? just cos it wasnt a scoob? just could have been a better driver?

'the quicker car is often the one being driven by the owner with bigger *****. But he was keeping up on the straights for gawds sake!! '

the quicker car could be driven by a better driver perhaps?

'Thought Scoobs were unbeatable on the wet bumpy twistie's There goes another myth!'

No car is unbeatable on the twisties, thats probably why so many of em get smashed up ?

'these guys are probably redlining in every gear and sliding dangerously around each corner, just give it time and they'll find thier way into a ditch sooner or later which if you ask me is the best place for them! '

How do you know they are, again they may just be a better driver

Scoobs that think they can beat anything usually are the ones that end up in a ditch

Happy Driving


Old 01 March 2003, 11:27 AM
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I was following a Renault 19 16v one day, think I had the RB5 then.

I thought he was going quite well,as I did have to try a little to keep up, til he ended up in the ditch after leaving the road and hitting a lampost.

Old 01 March 2003, 12:14 PM
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i was test driving an sti7ppp and a car behind me kept up -turned out it was a volvo t5r,not a police one
martin
ps the salesman was not chuffed either!
Old 01 March 2003, 12:23 PM
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Sonic

I am the first to admit he could have been a better driver (OR have bigger *****). I myself have only had the joys of Scoob ownership for a few weeks also.

But surely driver skill is negligable in a straight line, where I couldn't put any space on him.
Old 01 March 2003, 12:25 PM
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But surely driver skill is negligable in a straight line, where I couldn't put any space on him.
I seriously don't want to comment on that for fear of retribution..
Old 01 March 2003, 12:51 PM
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LOL Kat

Old 01 March 2003, 12:51 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it. Anyway can loose in the twisties to any other car. I really struggled to get past a Citreon Berlingo van once when I had the VTS. The guy was nuts and was sliding around all over the place.
Old 01 March 2003, 12:52 PM
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Could it have been a Polo G40 by chance, I used to have one of those and it was fantastic looked like a shopping trolly bent went like **** off a shovel
Old 01 March 2003, 01:02 PM
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found out it was a robin reliant??????
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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