Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Subaru Press Release: 265PS PPP for new style WRX!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 27 February 2003, 08:34 AM
  #1  
JohnS
Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
JohnS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Aberdeen/shire
Posts: 4,727
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation

For Immediate Release

265 PS PERFORMANCE PACK FOR NEW-LOOK IMPREZA WRX

Subaru’s new-look Impreza WRX is now available with a 265 PS performance pack which not only matches the power of the standard STi but produces even more torque.

Maximum pulling power leaps to 257 lb.ft at 3,500 rpm compared to the STi’s 243 lb.ft at 4,000 rpm and the regular WRX’s figure of 221.3 lb.ft at 4,000 rpm.

The result is a 0-60 mph time of 4.8 seconds with the Prodrive-developed WRX performance pack and a 0-100 mph recording of 14.1 seconds. This compares to the standard WRX times of 5.6 and 15.9 seconds respectively.

More importantly, throttle response is significantly enhanced throughout the rev-range, both during take-off and at the top-end. For example, the 30-50 mph time in fourth gear comes down from 7.8 seconds to 6.3 seconds and the 50-70 mph time in fifth gear is slashed from 10 seconds to 7.4 seconds.

The £1,600 performance pack must be fitted after registration and comprises a reprogrammed Electronic Control Unit (ECU) and free-flow exhaust system with a large single tailpipe. This price includes VAT and fitting.

Ends…

Further information:
Arthur Fairley
0121 522 6059 (Direct Line)

Anne Nash
0121 224 1643 (Direct Line)


26 February 2003
Old 27 February 2003, 08:45 AM
  #2  
Makalu
Scooby Regular
 
Makalu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 701
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question

So what have they done that is different with this PPP than they did with the MY01 version?

Mak.
Old 27 February 2003, 08:46 AM
  #3  
chiark
Scooby Regular
 
chiark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 13,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

4.8s official timing? That's rapid. And lots of torque too
Old 27 February 2003, 08:53 AM
  #4  
PPPMAT
Scooby Regular
 
PPPMAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

This is great news, but I don't understand the thinking behind it. You can get more performance from a wrx+ppp than from an sti (0-60) and it can't be far off from 0-100. It seems like strange product placement by Subaru. I'm not complaining though - this might be the one to have!!
Old 27 February 2003, 09:00 AM
  #5  
dsmith
Scooby Regular
 
dsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 4,518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Don't forget the STi has many other differences suspension and engine wise (and that Scoop !). I would suspect they dont expect to sell *that* many STis without the STi PPP.

Deano
Old 27 February 2003, 09:01 AM
  #6  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question

So will this PPP fit the MY02? I guess the exhaust pattern is the same and its down to the ECU. Doesn't include the uprated fuel pump though ? Very tempting
Old 27 February 2003, 09:01 AM
  #7  
DrEvil
Scooby Regular
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 8,384
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up

Excellent Smithers!
Old 27 February 2003, 09:06 AM
  #8  
mutant_matt
Scooby Regular
 
mutant_matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: London
Posts: 7,039
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

So what have they done that is different with this PPP than they did with the MY01 version?
I believe that they are now using the EcuTek software which gives them a greater range of mapping cabailities over the old Boost raiser which is presumably where the gains have come from.

PPPMAT, you have to remember that a very large proportion of the STi owners go for the PPP as well so I doubt it's that strange....

Matt
Old 27 February 2003, 09:08 AM
  #9  
DBY
Scooby Regular
 
DBY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Fantastic ! i ordered mine without knowing what the performance gains would be for new MY 03 that i pick up this saturday what a result.
Old 27 February 2003, 09:25 AM
  #10  
PPPMAT
Scooby Regular
 
PPPMAT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

mutant_matt

good point, I hadn't thought about that. Still, looks like a good option for people like me who 20,000 miles a year (ish) and need a bit more comfort and still want the performance.
Old 27 February 2003, 09:45 AM
  #11  
Diablo
Scooby Regular
 
Diablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: £1.785m reasons not to be here :)
Posts: 6,095
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face

How many pi55ed of STI7 owners are there going to be though

D
Old 27 February 2003, 10:25 AM
  #12  
minister of speed
Scooby Regular
 
minister of speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question



BUT WILL IT FIT MY02 ????????????????
Old 27 February 2003, 10:27 AM
  #13  
Beemer_Deano
Scooby Regular
 
Beemer_Deano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 516
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Anyone know what the CO2 figures are for an '03 with PPP, or where I can find them?

Thanks in advance,

Deano
Old 27 February 2003, 10:29 AM
  #14  
dsmith
Scooby Regular
 
dsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 4,518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

How many pi55ed of STI7 owners are there going to be though?
This should clear up the stragglers who weren't already pissed off about residuals,no torque,ppp delays, rattly suspension,ugly lights

Deano
(Drooling at thought off PPP for MY03 in June )
Old 27 February 2003, 12:13 PM
  #15  
wilf
Scooby Regular
 
wilf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

To work out the power/weight does anyone know what the MY03 weighs and what does the STI 8 weigh?

Old 27 February 2003, 12:23 PM
  #16  
RobinSherwood
Scooby Regular
 
RobinSherwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool

This also might be a blessing for those of us who would like an STi Wagon but don't particularly want to imprt a JDM car.

MYO3 Wagon + PPP + Full Decat might be at last the thing to tempt me into thinking about replacing my car

Robin
Old 27 February 2003, 12:30 PM
  #17  
3times
Scooby Regular
 
3times's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Excellent!

My mind is now made up!
Old 27 February 2003, 12:42 PM
  #18  
MJW
Scooby Senior
 
MJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Yorks.
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Excellent news for wagon drivers (and potential wagon drivers)
At last a decent performing wagon !

Some stats for those who want 'em :

STi = 1470kgs
WRX = 1395kgs
WRX Wagon = 1410kgs

CO2 emissions for WRX = 219 g/km

The MY03 PPP will not be suitable for MY02 afaik







[Edited by MJW - 2/27/2003 12:44:53 PM]
Old 27 February 2003, 12:43 PM
  #19  
Boyakasha
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Boyakasha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: just to your right
Posts: 1,859
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post


Try telling the Insurance company you have just put 20% more power on the car, they will just double your policy
Old 27 February 2003, 12:51 PM
  #20  
wilf
Scooby Regular
 
wilf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

188bhp/ton for saloon

thats better than MY99 174bhp/ton

but less than MY99PPP 194bhp/ton
Old 27 February 2003, 12:55 PM
  #21  
Brendan Hughes
Scooby Regular
 
Brendan Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: same time, different place
Posts: 11,313
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Cool

Sounds fantastic, too bad I've already put a deposit on something else

Hoping Mike Wood or Nick Wadeson could add to this thread?
Old 27 February 2003, 01:27 PM
  #22  
Toonman1
Scooby Regular
 
Toonman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

March's Evo reckons the PPP will only have 250bhp, so as not to tread on the toes (tyres?) of the STi. Got to say this makes sense. Much as I'd love a WRX PPP with 265bhp + more torque than an STi, I'll be surprised if it happens. Doesn't make much sense from a marketing point of view.

Cheers

Mike

[Edited by Toonman1 - 2/27/2003 1:28:53 PM]
Old 27 February 2003, 01:42 PM
  #24  
DBY
Scooby Regular
 
DBY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

The insurance was no problem as i went through Subaru Insured and they know about the ppp.I paid £21k all in for WRX 03 with ppp,met paint,wrx matts,bootliner,alu gearshift surround Momo gear **** the car is fantastic value for money.The article in Evo mag is correct in that it states that Prodrive have extracted 260 bhp from the 03 model and this is in fact what has been passed through to the final product that we can buy,i have phoned last week and they confirmed this to me roll on sat morning.
Old 27 February 2003, 01:49 PM
  #25  
Fitz
Scooby Regular
 
Fitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post

why would, specifically an STi7 owner be pissed off ???
seeing as the STi8 has the same power as the STi7 and both PPP's are comparable
Old 27 February 2003, 01:56 PM
  #26  
Nick Wadeson
Scooby Regular
 
Nick Wadeson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: on a Warwickshire test track
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Brendan

What do you need to know?

Nick.
Old 27 February 2003, 02:12 PM
  #27  
Neil Smalley
Scooby Senior
 
Neil Smalley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 8,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

If I recall the old MY02 PPP had more torque than the STI(261(PPP) to 253 STI). It seems as though the new PPP has increased the BHP more than it has the torque.

What is interesting is to see the stated performance figures vary so much. If I recall the MY01/02 PPP cars official time was around the 5.6 mark.

So how did they get it to 4.8 with only a 15 Bhp advantage and no weight loss??

From what i've seen I suspect the original MY01/02 performance figures were very conservative when every comparison i've seen on the road indicates them to be much faster than given credit for.

Curious...

Old 27 February 2003, 02:17 PM
  #28  
Diablo
Scooby Regular
 
Diablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: £1.785m reasons not to be here :)
Posts: 6,095
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

why would, specifically an STi7 owner be pissed off ???
seeing as the STi8 has the same power as the STi7 and both PPP's are comparable
Simple - cost.

How much was the "prodrive" STI7

£28k or thereabouts.

At least the STI 8 costs less. But there is now no reason to buy a UK STI for performance advantage alone over a WRX. Indeed, a PPP'd WRX will have a higher power to weight ratio than a standard STI. OK, but the STi PPP gives more power again, but at comparably higher cost.

D
Old 27 February 2003, 02:20 PM
  #30  
Brendan Hughes
Scooby Regular
 
Brendan Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: same time, different place
Posts: 11,313
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Cool

Not me Nick (unfortunately!), but just wondering if the horse's mouth could add anything else? Certainly sounds like an attractive package!

Personally, I seem to be a little bit rogered at the moment. After a year of thinking, I eventually decided against one car (PPP Wagon) in favour of two extremes (RAV4 + Caterham), and it is currently looking like, now my RAV4 deposit is no longer refundable, Portugal won't let me import the Caterham (non-homologated) [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]. Have been waiting for the last week for a final decision from Customs.

There is the small chance that I will forgo my deposit (two thousand quid ) to get the Portuguese Prodrive Pack, with suspension and brake upgrades, but as it will probably take another 6 mths to filter over here, I don't see that just yet.


Quick Reply: Subaru Press Release: 265PS PPP for new style WRX!



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:16 AM.