Evo or Scooby Track Car?
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Looking at a track day car, and originally set a budget of up to £1000 for 205 Gti etc. I am now looking at £4-5k. For this I think I will get an old Evo or Scoob. What would be the best to go for? I am thinking Evo at this stage - seen a few Evo 1's for this money. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Personnaly I class the Subaru as a Rallye car not an ideall track car. As for the Evo surely something that price will need a lot of work doing to it to get it track ready and reliable??
I would go for a MK11 Escort
Doc
I would go for a MK11 Escort
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Simon,
If you are looking for a track car I would leave the 4WD rally specials out of the equation. They are road/rally cars - not track cars. The biggest killer with these sort of cars on track are running costs. They are heavy and therefore destroy tyres, brakes disks and brake pads.
A pug would make a fine track weapon. Craig and I know a chap how has a Pug 205 fitted with Quaife LSD and Mi16 Engine with management and throttle bodies and it hammered the scoobs at bedford (before he got kicked off for being to loud).
Again - if you can find a cheap RWD Saph Cossie that would be a great car too.
Car and Car Conversions also used a Metro GTa a few months ago that was also able to hammer a scoob on track - the important thing here - Mark Hales was at the wheel LOL.
The other alternative is something like a westfield - they cost peanuts to run and insure and give a fantastic driving experience.
Just my 2p worth m8.
Ian.
[Edited by igratton - 2/25/2003 12:09:34 PM]
If you are looking for a track car I would leave the 4WD rally specials out of the equation. They are road/rally cars - not track cars. The biggest killer with these sort of cars on track are running costs. They are heavy and therefore destroy tyres, brakes disks and brake pads.
A pug would make a fine track weapon. Craig and I know a chap how has a Pug 205 fitted with Quaife LSD and Mi16 Engine with management and throttle bodies and it hammered the scoobs at bedford (before he got kicked off for being to loud).
Again - if you can find a cheap RWD Saph Cossie that would be a great car too.
Car and Car Conversions also used a Metro GTa a few months ago that was also able to hammer a scoob on track - the important thing here - Mark Hales was at the wheel LOL.
The other alternative is something like a westfield - they cost peanuts to run and insure and give a fantastic driving experience.
Just my 2p worth m8.
Ian.
[Edited by igratton - 2/25/2003 12:09:34 PM]
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I would second DOC's suggestion of MK2 Escort. For your budget of c£4k you could well end up with a car which will be faster round a track than a lot of standard EVOs, scoobys etc (controversial I know!). More importantly, they are a blast to drive on track. I used to have a MK2 X-pack which was only moderately tuned and was more than a match for a standard cossie on a twisty track. Other plus points are that parts are still readily available and cheap and you can develop the car as funds allow.
Steve
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Yep, I'd second that... Scoobs are very expensive to run on track regularly, and very isolating - with a crash helmet on, it's almost as removed as a video-game, rather than a seat-of-your-pants crazy driving experience. And on a race track, standard scoobs tend to feel artificially slow... or maybe thats just me!
All IMHO of course...
All IMHO of course...
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MKii another cracking idea...but be careful - it could end up costing an arm and a leg like dingys if you stick a cossie lump in there.
You all need to see Dingys car when it comes back out of the garage - its bloody amazing now
Ian.
You all need to see Dingys car when it comes back out of the garage - its bloody amazing now
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a customer of ours has had a few different cars for track day use and still regrets getting rid of a mk2 granada 2.8 injection !
insists it was the biggest laugh on a track he ever had
i think you first have to decide do you want to go fast or do you want to have fun
if its the second then its got to be rear wheel drive
insists it was the biggest laugh on a track he ever had
i think you first have to decide do you want to go fast or do you want to have fun
if its the second then its got to be rear wheel drive
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LOL
he got kicked off to 2 reasons:
1. supposedly too loud (even though his throttle bodies are enclosed in a baffled carbon fibre airbox and the car has a CAT) Don't get me started on being banned grrrr.
2. because the marshalls said he was getting 'out of control' (read sideways) on too many corners.
The only car he didn't spank on the day was the F360 - and thats because they kicked him off. It was very very strange to see a little french hatch matching an M5 for speed down the straight
Martin is a top fella.
he got kicked off to 2 reasons:
1. supposedly too loud (even though his throttle bodies are enclosed in a baffled carbon fibre airbox and the car has a CAT) Don't get me started on being banned grrrr.
2. because the marshalls said he was getting 'out of control' (read sideways) on too many corners.
The only car he didn't spank on the day was the F360 - and thats because they kicked him off. It was very very strange to see a little french hatch matching an M5 for speed down the straight
Martin is a top fella.
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Thanks for the replies guys - I agree with the comments. There were a couple of MK2 Escorts at Donington a couple of weeks back and they were very fast, and were more than a match for most things out there, especially the Scooby!
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