Deep Singh

Browsing thru the Demon Tweaks catalogue and came across rev limiters with a facility to allow full throttle gear shift and hence faster in gear acceleration.Anyone got one of these and if so opinions please.Cheers,Deep.

Gary Foster

I don't know of this is the same thing, but I'm looking at a so called 'quick shift' which allows you to do full bore upchanges if you have a sequential dog box (eg a bike box / Getrag etc).

At the moment, to change up, I have to back of the throttle to unmesh the gears in order to get the car in gear. The quick shift thing operates on a switch that cuts the ignition when you pull the gear lever towards you, thus allowing up-gear changes without lifting of the throttle.

Can't see how this would work on a normal road car gear box though, I think you have to use the clutch with these ?

Gary

Deep Singh

Hi Gary,I see what you mean but one of the ones advertised in Demon Tweaks is supplied with a clutch pedal switch so I am a little confused.I suppose the easiest thing is for me to ring them on Monday!!

Gary Foster

Hmm, doesn't sound like the same thing does it ...

Why would you want to use the clutch ?

I was at TOCA qualifying on Saturday and noticed they seemed to be using the system I described, I could hear the misfire happen on the upchange, it must have taken at most 1 - 2 m/s to change gear, probly a lot less - get yourself a proper sequential gearbox

Gary

jonnyg

one of me mates just fitted this to his car. basicly you can drive without the clutch, just change gear and thats it. cut a bit of his 0-60 so its worth it, and they are only £100-200. gonna get one soon.

he also said that he see's the odd flame coming when he does it, 'cos its still fully fueling but just not firing...

MorayMackenzie

FTGC systems are NOT mechanically sympathetic... you may well change engine internals into externals... ask Pat about his expirience.

Blackscooby

DS,

I use something very similar to what you have quoted and it was from Demon T's as well. I use it in my Sprint 205 Gti car.

Basically it allows you to change up without lifting the thottle. It cuts the revs to a preset limit (5000 rpm in my case) whilst the clutch is down to prevent over-revving whilst changing up with the thottle mashed to the floor.

Pops and bangs fantasically even from a Pug 205 GTi. Its sounds just like Antilag to be honest.

Its far from mechanically sympathetic and I wouldn't use it on my Subaru.

Cheers

Mark.

Danny Fisher

I think the link has a software way of doing this, but the motec, pectel and the like are better at doing it.

Dan

EvilBevel

Deep, for once Moray is right ... they will probably ruin your gearbox (which = expensive, I have the T-Shirt )

Now to really **** you off (LOL), it probably works a bit like the Unichip launch control, but then in every gear, not just 1st.

I would steer clear of it.

Theo

bren@apex

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Edited because Ive just read Marks reply!

Bren

[This message has been edited by bren (edited 08 October 2001).]

Bob Rawle

Its very far from being mechanically sympathetic and can cause the engine to "hydraulic" if it does not work as it should apart from stressing everything beyond what is sensible.

Do it at your peril and be prepared for a big bill sooner or later.

Danny, you may be thinking of anti-lag, Link cannot do the ignition cut itself although its perfectly possible to add in the function separately.

Deep Singh

Message received loud and clear guys!!Cheers.

Danny Fisher

Bob, yes sorry, was getting confused( Some would say its not hard)

Dan