STi Type R Help!!!
#1
As long as you run good fuel with octane booster and have it serviced by an expert specialist and dont mess with the boost unless doing it properly (ie full replacement ecu and mapped by an expert) and dont hold sustained high revs in top gears ie 160mph down a german motorway for mile upon mile then you will probably be okay. No guarentees though all types of scoob engines have blown for loads of different reasons not just V5 STI engines.
[Edited by Type_RA - 9/2/2002 8:22:55 PM]
[Edited by Type_RA - 9/2/2002 8:22:55 PM]
#2
I can only talk about my own experience.
Have had a Sti V5 for over 20 months.
Not a single problem (thank God)
Only changed service parts., brake pads and light bulbs.
Magnificant car and I honestly believe it is the best value Scoob.
Get 17s and adjust the suspension and trust me you need no after market mods. SIDC quote 300bhp standard and with weight slightly less than a P1 it flies. Plus it's smooth and refined on the motorway. One thing that endears me more than anything else is that I don't have to thrash the engine to beat the vast majority of the cars on the road. Even overtaking doesn't need mad down gearing. I hardle ever need to really stress the engine and I'm always up for a quick blast from the lights.
Go for it.
[Edited by importsti - 9/2/2002 8:35:31 PM]
Have had a Sti V5 for over 20 months.
Not a single problem (thank God)
Only changed service parts., brake pads and light bulbs.
Magnificant car and I honestly believe it is the best value Scoob.
Get 17s and adjust the suspension and trust me you need no after market mods. SIDC quote 300bhp standard and with weight slightly less than a P1 it flies. Plus it's smooth and refined on the motorway. One thing that endears me more than anything else is that I don't have to thrash the engine to beat the vast majority of the cars on the road. Even overtaking doesn't need mad down gearing. I hardle ever need to really stress the engine and I'm always up for a quick blast from the lights.
Go for it.
[Edited by importsti - 9/2/2002 8:35:31 PM]
#3
Help me Pleeease. I'm looking to buy an Sti type r and am hearing alot of conflicting information about the best version to go for.
Stories of the version 5 having the weakest engine, complete with regular blow up's, the need to change the ecu etc.
Can anyone give me some advice on what to go for and what I need to do to it to stop it blowing up, these stories are putting me off the idea, help.
Stories of the version 5 having the weakest engine, complete with regular blow up's, the need to change the ecu etc.
Can anyone give me some advice on what to go for and what I need to do to it to stop it blowing up, these stories are putting me off the idea, help.
#4
Don't listen to the stories of unreliablity with the Type R, the Honda engine is very good and will not let you down, unlike the Subaru STI Type R which will give you years of grief.
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hi bel
i have had a wrx sti type r for nearly a year it is a v4 and my engine went after only 2 months of having it (nightmare) 6k later i got a race spec scoob engine back but it was painful to say the least also yellowtype r had the same thing happen to his.
its the soft metal bearings on pot 3 that give up and produce piston slap
all said and done i am still glad i got it and enjoying it to the max. take your time and make up your own mind about it,sidc has a long passage about this problem on there web site. read it.
happy motoring m8
i have had a wrx sti type r for nearly a year it is a v4 and my engine went after only 2 months of having it (nightmare) 6k later i got a race spec scoob engine back but it was painful to say the least also yellowtype r had the same thing happen to his.
its the soft metal bearings on pot 3 that give up and produce piston slap
all said and done i am still glad i got it and enjoying it to the max. take your time and make up your own mind about it,sidc has a long passage about this problem on there web site. read it.
happy motoring m8
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Ive got a 4R as well and my engine was rebuilt on new crank etc (£4k) by the previous owner. It was the same bearing and the owner at the time ran octane booster.
It now runs a link ECU/lamda & knock link with no problems.
I dont think the 5 engine is any worse than the 4 engine, but It does have a better rear spoiler, but no front splitter for the newer shaped bumper, That came on the STI6.
My advice is to keep a grand to 1.5k back on the cars price and have the engine removed and the bearings replaced. At the same time you can have the oil pump & clutch replaced/uprated while the engine is out as it will be worn after an average 40k and will probably need doing anyway sometime in your ownership.
That way you'll know!
It now runs a link ECU/lamda & knock link with no problems.
I dont think the 5 engine is any worse than the 4 engine, but It does have a better rear spoiler, but no front splitter for the newer shaped bumper, That came on the STI6.
My advice is to keep a grand to 1.5k back on the cars price and have the engine removed and the bearings replaced. At the same time you can have the oil pump & clutch replaced/uprated while the engine is out as it will be worn after an average 40k and will probably need doing anyway sometime in your ownership.
That way you'll know!
#14
Belgarian - The strongest engine (I beleive) is the STi III or IV with a Closed Deck Block, as on the Type R STi IV. The weakest STi Engine is the STi V.
I am not 100% sure as to the full technical details as to why the engines are not as strong, but understand that the STi IV's use a thicker head gasket, and the blocks are generally stronger, but how true this is I dont know.
One of the main reasons that the Scooby engines let go, is the oil feed to the engine. The sump's are relatively small on the cars, and upon cornering, if the car is low of oil, can result in the engine being starved of oil, which is devastating, even if only left dry for a split second.
I have had 2 Scooby engines let go over the years, including a Type R sti II, due to lack of oil, and the other being the current STi IV, due to the fuelling being altered by the previous owner.
Unfortunately, the Scooby engines are not as strong as some of their Japanese Counterparts (i.e Evo's, GTiR's), but as long as the car is well maintained, and the right mods undertaken by the right people, you should have no major problems.
I am not 100% sure as to the full technical details as to why the engines are not as strong, but understand that the STi IV's use a thicker head gasket, and the blocks are generally stronger, but how true this is I dont know.
One of the main reasons that the Scooby engines let go, is the oil feed to the engine. The sump's are relatively small on the cars, and upon cornering, if the car is low of oil, can result in the engine being starved of oil, which is devastating, even if only left dry for a split second.
I have had 2 Scooby engines let go over the years, including a Type R sti II, due to lack of oil, and the other being the current STi IV, due to the fuelling being altered by the previous owner.
Unfortunately, the Scooby engines are not as strong as some of their Japanese Counterparts (i.e Evo's, GTiR's), but as long as the car is well maintained, and the right mods undertaken by the right people, you should have no major problems.
#15
Well I've had a TypeR V5 for nigh on 2years, I imported new from Cyprus, The only problem I've had was a cam belt that frayed. Job done she was as good as new, I run it every day and have covered 22k now. Had first service done by PE and every one since by GGR who I must say do a fantastic job, thinking about it it's nearly time for the 22.5k one. Ahhh
All kinds of cars blow up all the while, i've had cars that some people say are bullet proof and have had nowt but hassel.
Try the car and if you like it then take the risk, have the work done to put your mind at rest and you'll never regret it.
I'm thinking of selling mine for an STi7, if you fancy then send me a mail and well talk. It's totally standard and in nigh on perfect condition and has a set of 18' OZ Superlegera's.
All kinds of cars blow up all the while, i've had cars that some people say are bullet proof and have had nowt but hassel.
Try the car and if you like it then take the risk, have the work done to put your mind at rest and you'll never regret it.
I'm thinking of selling mine for an STi7, if you fancy then send me a mail and well talk. It's totally standard and in nigh on perfect condition and has a set of 18' OZ Superlegera's.
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