Brendan Hughes

OK, here's a hypothetical question.

You are not subject to any speed limits, but all other things are equal. What car would you buy?

All other things are equal. You have the same disposable income (rules out Macca F1 for most of us), same need (or not) for transporting kids, fuel is the same price, you still have to do your daily mileage. And you don't have any more parking space than now (so no "5 car" answers!). Everyone else is subject to speed limits, so if you buy a 200mph monster you won't get very far on the M25, at least in the daytime, and a Ferrari will still cost most of us too much in maintenance.

Would you keep the Scoob, for practicality? Get a Porsche to do 170mph when the road is clear? Get a Cater/field for doing 90 in 30 zones?

BJH

beefola

Without doubt a Cater/field. Probably an R300. Its probably about as much fun as you could have, fast and nimble enough to weave in and out of traffic a lot. Plus it looks cool....:-)
Beef

chuckster

So you are asking the scooby owning public if they regret buying their car? I mean it's a really odd question isn't it? I presume most of the people who bought the scoob did so because it was their ideal car taking into account their own circumstances. All you are suggesting is a private immunity from speeding fines, how could that change someones decision, which I'm sure wasn't governed at all by the current speeding laws.
C
PS I'll happily admit the 22B is a compromise for me, I'd without doubt have a GT3 if it wasn't for my pesky kids(and lugauge) not fitting in the thing

[Edited by chuckster - 7/17/2002 11:17:21 AM]

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

cosworth powered mark 2 escort RS2000 I would love one of them

Brendan Hughes

chuckster, it is an odd question, but it's linked to the comment that arises on here about "usable speed/power" and "in the real world". People will talk about their cars and then complain they can't use all the power. I'm asking "what if you could, then which would you choose?"

BTW I didn't really expect a 22B owner to reply

chuckster

Ahhh! I ride a bike to get use of power in the real world - dead easy to overtake anything in traffic. I've always considered the 22 more 'fun' than something like a P1 precisely because in the 'real world' it's more fun driving it at 7/10ths than a P1 - because the 22 is less well set up for British B roads, ultimately there are faster point to point cars, but do they 'feel' as fast? Thats also why I prefer the Elise to the Exige - no top means a much greater perception of speed = more fun at any given speed.
C

Brendan Hughes

But that's my point. People go for the greater perception of speed as they are not allowed the real speed. I'm saying you would be allowed it. Would you keep the perception (useful in traffic) or would you go for the real thing?

Perception is great. My Dutton (crap Cater/field imitation) felt rocket fast, but I kept getting blown away at the lights by 1.6 Sierras...

STI MAN

But some of us DO get to use all of the car's power / speed!

30 round towns etc, and soon as a National speed limit sign.....wham!

And a scoob is the perfect car for it! and a Mitsi Evo for that matter

chuckster

But when you get on a plane you go really really fast - it's still not fun. I like corners, I have lots of lowdown turbo charged torque. I think of all cars on the market a SUbaru lets u use mroe of the power more of the time than 99pct of cars for similar money(that can do the same job ie carry 4 people and loads of garbage).
Going any faster on a motorway ain't more fun, and how fast you go on a B road is dictated more by corners and hazzards than speed limits/cars top speed. I still don't think your question makes sense.
Bet alot of Ford guys understand where you are coming from though LOL
In summary - speed limits are not a factor to be considered at all when buying a car. If the limits were removed, I can't see how anyone choosing a Subaru would want to pick a different car to take advantage of that, as only straight line top speed would have to be factored additionally into the equation, and scoobs have never been about that.
C
Sorry about the waffling, at work and cant proof-read LOL

carl

I don't understand the point of the question
The implication is that there are people who currently have a Scoob not because it's quick, cheap, and has four doors and a boot, but because it only does 140mph (twice the speed limit). The further implication is that if the speed limit was higher, they would have bought a car with a higher top speed

Is there really anyone on here like that?

Katana

A Nova with 18" alloys with a fake Nos bottle in the boot..

catflap

westy blade or even busa powerd

oo hang on i already got one

and ooooo YEHHHHH (hulk hogan style) its fun, more fun than my scooby was.

IOW_duder

I agree with chuckster, i got my car for the corners... much more fun!

Luke

slippyr4

I'd replace my R33 Skyline with an R34

MattN

not sure I understand the question.


The question goes full circle as you can have anything you want based on the same critera you used to pick your current car so you are asking should have I gone for the EVO?

Hoppy

DB7 or 500bhp Skyline

n5pug

I feel that most of us are not governed by speed limits anyway (speed cameras maybe ) we do thirty in the thirty zone because it's the sensible thing to do and when the road opens up so does the throttle.
Mind you the police are always in the rear of our minds ( or in my case the rear view mirror ) because of some dickensian speed limit set in the sixties when cars couldn't do more than 70 safely.
<clears throat> rant over.

scottdg

...that would be the SL55 K8 BRABUS Mercedes.

Soft top, hard top, super hi-tech, 550bhp, 780NM torque
0-60mph 4.1 secs, 0-100 9secs 212mph top speed, 20inch alloys and F1 ceramic braking system.

In black with black leather please, just incase some kind soul out there fancies buying me one!!!!

PS. as pictured on the inside back cover of this monjths EVO.

Brendan Hughes

Sorry, I should clarify. There I was, trying to be all cloak-and-dagger, and all I get is mist and mud

Out here I have a number of friends who are diplomats. They're fairly normal people with normal salaries and normal lives, but their cars have CD plates, so they are effectively exempt from all rules of the road (NB not condoning hit-and-run, just Up Yours Gatso). They are out for a 2-3 year posting, then off somewhere else, and usually they get a chunky discount off new cars for being diplomats, like 10-30%. So I was thinking, if you had such status, how would you make the most of it? Still the scoob, or something sillier, just Because You Can?

chuckster

But the point is, for the money there's not much sillier than a JDM STI. Only above 100mph does something of equivalent cost (330ci bm? - no even thats alot more expensive) go much quicker. In other words even a 'lowly' scoob can do 120mph through most 30 mph zones, the only thing it can't do is compete over 120mph - and the only time that has any relevance is on boring straight roads.
All that sun is cooking ure head mate LOL
C

Brendan Hughes

You're not wrong - saw the thermometer hit 40C on Sunday, and last night at 10.30pm it was 29C outside and inside the apartment