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Old 04 May 2020, 03:38 AM
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Which Subaru would you say could be a good investment car that may increase/hold it's value in say the next 20 years? 22B springs to mind for Subaru and TME Evo 6 for Mitsubishi. But are there any other models you would think are a good buy?

If you could put a "classic" sports car collection together for the future, what would you have in it? Leave out exotics for now. Feel free to add to the list below.

Subaru Impreza 22B
Mitsubish EVO VI TME
Nissan GTR R32
Toyota Supra 2JZ

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Old 04 May 2020, 05:08 AM
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I would have some classic hot hatches

Escort rs turbo
Astra gte 16v
Golf mk1 or mk2
Fiesta xr2
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Old 04 May 2020, 06:45 AM
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R34 , I can't imagine how much they will go for in 20 years
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R34 , I can't imagine how much they will go for in 20 years
Bill Gates wouldnt be able to afford one
Old 04 May 2020, 09:30 AM
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E30 M3 fetching 40K at the moment
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Amongst other things, I've got one of the very first V1 STi's built in pristine condition. I've had it for 10 years now and bought it with the intention of keeping it for the long term.

I knew it would rise in value, but thought it was a sound investment to get some enjoyment out of and gain a bit of value and if its value happens to rise more drastically then that's a bonus.
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Lancia integrale

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22b
R34 Nur
Integrale Evo
Escort Cosworth
Evo 6 RS
Sunny GTIR
RX7

That would be my collection
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Originally Posted by pacenote
Lancia integrale
100%

The PSI3 still lives on strong, but cracked block...nice!
Should get it back soon once lockdown / furlough lifted yaay
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
100%

The PSI3 still lives on strong, but cracked block...nice!
Should get it back soon once lockdown / furlough lifted yaay
That's good to know about the PSI3 !
Sorry to hear about your engine issues, I did see your thread about it.
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In 20 years we are going to be well into electric power so how many people are going to want to run a 40-50 year old petrol turbo classic of some sort? I'm not sure the market will be that great by then?

Ignoring the 22B and Integrale which will be (are almost ?) In supercar territory, I would go for more back to basic stuff:-
- Impreza turbo classic (any)
- Renault Clio Cup
- Renault Megane R26
- Honda Integra type R (1st model)
- Fiat Panda 100hp (!)
- Toyota MR2 (1st model)
- Mazda 323 4wd Turbo (if I could find one)

Plus a load of Bilt Hamber / Dinitrol.

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Renault 5 Maxi Turbo:




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Originally Posted by scooobydont
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo:

Did you see ITV's 'The Car Years' recently - R5 turbo 2 vs Ur Quattro.

R5 won!
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I suppose this kind of simplistic fantasising is all just a bit of harmless fun but it does amaze me how some people have no grasp at all of the macro economic circumstances that have resulted in the current bubble prices of so called ''investment cars'' along with just about anything else that can even vaguely be described as an ''asset class''

People seem to think that's whats happened to these so called ''investment cars'' in recent years is just normal supply and demand that always has happened and will always continue to do so, and have no idea of the utterly extraordinary set of circumstances that has come about to result in such ''values'' being achieved.

The best advice I can give is do a bit of reading up on Tulip Mania, Railway Mania or the South Sea Bubble... and then realise that what we're currently living through is much, much bigger than any of those AND this time it's all essentially based on debt, at least previous bubbles were funded by actual capital!

Maybe the rises of recent years will continue at the same rate of increase for another 10 or 20 years and 22B's and TME's will then be worth £400k or more, who knows? I'd guess it all depends on how long they can keep this great debt based fiat monetary system plates spinning for.
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Originally Posted by mike74
I suppose this kind of simplistic fantasising is all just a bit of harmless fun but it does amaze me how some people have no grasp at all of the macro economic circumstances that have resulted in the current bubble prices of so called ''investment cars'' along with just about anything else that can even vaguely be described as an ''asset class''

People seem to think that's whats happened to these so called ''investment cars'' in recent years is just normal supply and demand that always has happened and will always continue to do so, and have no idea of the utterly extraordinary set of circumstances that has come about to result in such ''values'' being achieved.

The best advice I can give is do a bit of reading up on Tulip Mania, Railway Mania or the South Sea Bubble... and then realise that what we're currently living through is much, much bigger than any of those AND this time it's all essentially based on debt, at least previous bubbles were funded by actual capital!

Maybe the rises of recent years will continue at the same rate of increase for another 10 or 20 years and 22B's and TME's will then be worth £400k or more, who knows? I'd guess it all depends on how long they can keep this great debt based fiat monetary system plates spinning for.
party-pooper....................i bet your fun to go out with
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
party-pooper....................i bet your fun to go out with
lol... yeah laugh a minute me!
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
party-pooper....................i bet your fun to go out with
He’s just pissed off he missed the boat
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Old 04 May 2020, 08:11 PM
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The mk1 and mk2 RS Focus , and any old Ford ,
Mine, Missing the show season



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A future investment is wot it’s all about,I remember back in the day cars like Stags and TR 6 s went for silly money just like the fords are now,Now more people can afford them as they wasn’t much of an investment after all but I think as discussed we are talking future investments and some good choices there but future investments can go up as well as down as the party pooper suggested,I think the bug,blob and hawk sti and that sort of thing will rise steadily as we don’t see them as much like we did three years ago,I’ve got a few cars inc the blob sti,also got a jdm hawk wagon and one car that has had a kick in the Bollox regarding resale is the bm z4 m coupe,I’ve got one and paid good money for it as it’s mint and a low mileage,just look at prices if the Z3 ,prices normally recover in time,I’ve also got a Datsun 260 Z which is mint and had that for 30 years,I paid £2600 and it’s agree value now is 35 k but I’ll be dead in 30 years time, electric will be the way forward unfortunately so best make a killing on those toys that are tucked away when prices rise again

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Originally Posted by the shreksta
I would have some classic hot hatches

Escort rs turbo
Astra gte 16v
Golf mk1 or mk2
Fiesta xr2

My current daily.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

My current daily.
to be fair they are worth a fair bit now
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