steviep1

Got £23500 and thinking of buying first my first scoob, being a p1 with the reg P1 IN UK. Can anyone offer me any advise on what to look out for when buying??

chopper

Get one with the big brake kit - it needs them.

The Zohan

Stevie
Hi there and welcome.

P1 - good choice, i hope to be in the same position towards the end of the year.

If i may
There are at least two P1's for sale in the For Sale section on 'ere.

I know one of them, Ian Grattons, it is mint and Ian is a fastidious, careful ownwer, i would like this car meself.

try
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?threadid=105983

Also Ian Cook has one for sale, both well worth a look.

Big brake upgarde is essential.

Watch for the usual
bad shut lines (panel gaps) indicting damage, lack of service history - Full service history essential.

Happy hunting


[Edited by Paul Habgood - 6/18/2002 2:56:29 PM]

steviep1

Cheers for that, I think the price will drop significantly soon, but i cant wait any longer so.....

wilf

Go for later car with full armourfend on front to avoid paint probs. If you buy from dealer negotiate on upgrades.

Watch out for shot clutch/gearboxes

Ed Lees

Also watch out for loose lower lip spoiler & even the front bumpers tend to shake loose!!!
Go for an STi instead you should pick a UK ex demo up for not much more, its a much better car altogether!

Mickle

Just my 2 pence worth...

I've got a P1 without the big brake upgrade and would like to say that the brakes are perfectly adiquate, what's all this nonsense about you NEEEEEEEEED big brakes.

I've got one of the late P1's and touch wood it runs fine, looks fine with no problems in the 7 months or ownership.

If I had to buy one now with experience I'd look for one without mods and hopefully no track day experience, sound paintwork (armourfend on front lip), no cracked lights, no scuffs on alloys. My interior rattles like a pig at times but I think that's a design feature and they all do it.

Hope this helps.

Mike

P1Fanatic

AFAIK the P1 uses same brakes as standard turbo (but dont hold me to that). With that much power one would expect a significant increase in stopping power.

RoShamBo

iTrader: (1)

Thats like saying all STi's need bigger brakes !
P1 & STi4/5 have the same brakes.

Ro.

Mickle

All I'm saying is that when I slam on my anchors I stop, and I stop good.

I don't see how I need bigger brakes, the normal P1 brakes are fine. Sure it would be nice to have bigger brakes, but you don't NEEEEEEEEEEEEED them

[Edited by Mickle - 6/18/2002 4:45:38 PM]

MARK MORRIS

ive had mine 13 months now, no probs, uprated brakes, 18's, ss exhaust, luv it, only niggle is interior rattles
mark

igratton

Hi there,

my car is still for sale - 3 interested parties so far

justing turning pauls link into a link for you.

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...hreadid=105983

If you have any questions regarding the car please give me a call on 07970 049797 or drop a mail to igratton@easynet.co.uk

regards

Ian



[Edited by igratton - 6/18/2002 5:15:38 PM]

Viper

Quicker you do it the faster you can start enjoying it. I have stopped using mine evryday as my new job I need a car and I have opted for a BMW 330d Sport. I do miss the P1 though but about twice a week I take mine out for a blast and most weekends. I'm concentrating on getting mine spotless again and I am also planning some upgrades. There is alot of P1 bashing at time son this site but don't let them put you off.

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!!

Phil

wilf

Viper,

KNow what you mean - its the green eyed monster

Petoir

Don't! It'll fall to bits like mine did.

Evo6!

Josh L

I'd have to take issue with Ed and Petoir.

The lips and bumpers do not fall off. Not unless you continually bash them on kerbs. I had half the mounting bolts ripped out off mine by a loose piece of metal on some matting, during last years foot and mouth problems. Despite that, the front was perfectly stable until I had it fixed.

I've heard complaints about a few common P1 problems (stone chips, early brake pad issues etc), but the build quality is no better or worse than any other Impreza. I'm sure the Evo is great car, but with worse economy and shorter service intervals as just a couple of the drawbacks, I'd personally stick with a P1.

Josh

PS I've had mine since 09/2000. I've had one or two problems, but unless finances dictate otherwise, I won't be parting with mine for some time to come.

Pooder

Buy an STI type UK

lubo

luv mine. Had a Uk300 - same brakes -defo needed bigger brakes - much more power. Would never go back. Test drove an STi - much the same as the UK - stick with the P1 or test drive - the difference isnt hard to spot.

SCOOBERATORS

Had mine 3-weeks and the difference between a standard turbo is unbelievable.
Look for scrapes on the front spoiler / dodgy paintwork / kirbed wheels / original mats,spot covers, and most of all a full subaru main dealer service history.
Low milage would be nice, I got mine with 4000 miles.

Good luck (there is one in autotrader with 5500 miles)

chopper

Hi Mickle,

The issue with the brakes is purely down to personal experience -it depends how hard you drive the car. I never got the brake upgrade and had a few scary moments (it happens in London when people pull out as you are accelerating). I have since driven one with the AP 6 pot upgrade and couldn't believe the difference - it gave me so much more confidence in the car as it felt like a porsche when slamming on the anchors... just my 2 penneth

Mickle

Hi Chopper,

Maybe that's my problem, I've not tried the bigger brakes so I don't know what they're like. If any of you other P1 owners want to let me try

chuckster

Take any scoob out with standard brakes, try 3 hard sequential stops from 100 to 30, decide if you need brakes upgrading.
I upgraded the brakes on my STI4 after loosing the brakes overtaking a convoy of caravans which entailed accelerate, brake, accelerate, brake, ..repeat a couple more times, accelerate, brake..errm i said brake! brake!
Chuck

Gordo

love mine to bits - it's a year old now and still puts a grin on my face every time I take it out. 18" wheels are good (removed the slight understeer it had with the std 17") and it cheerfully rattles along but I only notice when the girlfriend makes me turn the radio down

I haven't upgraded the brakes yet as they're fine 99% of the time. tends to be in the wet or when it's been pushed hard for a while that slight fade happens.

I'm ignoring the pricing chat on the other thread as I'm keeping mine - it will be lovingly garaged and used as a toy when I get the next car - except that aside from a 911 Turbo (pause while I dream about that) and the fabled 400 BHP 4wd F type that looks like it will never happen, there's nothing else I want.

Get one, you won't regret it.....

Gordo

wilf

On the brakes issue I think it depends how and where you drive.

I felt the std brakes werent up to scratch on mine braking hard from 100+ (kmH ) on an A road which I use regularly a fast a road with some v steep gradients.

The std brakes felt as if they would stop you but only just. Upgrades gave much more confidence and brought stopping differences down.

Having the brakes done is a must as far as I'm concerned as it enables you to make so much more of the performance the P1 has to offer.

PS had std brakes on my old MY00 and never felt they werent up to the job. Guess its down to the P1s extra go.

steviep1

Read all your messages thanks, decided to go for the P1 thats at Heritage (local dealer). 21000 miles, dump valve, s/s exhaust (minus one cat), 18" prodrives plus Prodrive upgraded seats, brakes. May 2000. Reg as said before - P1 IN UK.
Sounds good to me, what do you reckon!?

wilf

How much they want for it?

I would also talk to Listers who specialise in P1s and I found great to deal with.

steviep1

sorry im loosing my mind - they want £23250.

wilf

Sticking my neck out I reckon that although the spec is nice you would be better off with a slightly lower spec later lower mileage car.

Brakes, wheels and zaust are the only key mods youd really see any money back on that one.

steviep1

is it listers lincoln ?

wilf

Worcester

When I bought mine they pretty well asked what mods I wanted and what price I would pay and we then did the deal. I was v impressed with the quality of the cars and the std of preparation on them as well.

Dont want to put you off a deal though it you're nearly there already.