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Old 10 May 2001, 05:55 PM
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Just because they always post on 22b when scoobynet is, ahem, inconvenienced...

Of course, maybe everyone else has no problem getting into the 22b bbs...
Old 10 May 2001, 06:02 PM
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No Probs - it must be you....
Old 10 May 2001, 06:13 PM
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Nope - it's me too.

I haven't been able to access it since yesterday evening.

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Old 10 May 2001, 06:22 PM
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Yep - I've lost it too...

Mind you, I only lurk occasionally in 22b.com
Old 10 May 2001, 06:36 PM
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tis there, just as its always been :-)

freeswerve was playing up a lot for me recently - don't know if any of you guys are on it ?
Old 10 May 2001, 08:59 PM
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Don't talk to me about Freeswerve - have used it for the last 2 yrs on a Win 98 Dell - just changed our PC for a new Dell P4 1.5ghz and Windoze 2000 - now if you start the PC up from cold, you can log on to Freeserve OK, if you come out of Freeserve (it releases the phone line ok) but leave the PC up and try and get back into Freeserve it just goes on checking the password indefinitely.

If you shut the PC down and start up again it is ok every time. Any offers???
Old 10 May 2001, 11:30 PM
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sounds like typical dell to me

do what I did and switch to BT adsl :-)
Old 10 May 2001, 11:32 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dave T-S:
<B>Lee
Don't talk to me about Freeswerve - have used it for the last 2 yrs on a Win 98 Dell - just changed our PC for a new Dell P4 1.5ghz and Windoze 2000 - now if you start the PC up from cold, you can log on to Freeserve OK, if you come out of Freeserve (it releases the phone line ok) but leave the PC up and try and get back into Freeserve it just goes on checking the password indefinitely.

If you shut the PC down and start up again it is ok every time. Any offers???[/quote]

You still having problems then!

Have you done the Freeserve 'number switcher' that is available from their service status page?

Old 11 May 2001, 07:56 AM
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Lee
Dell aren't that bad....

Acker
Yup. Even got an alternative number they don't publicise. Still hangs.

I don't think it is the line. It worked with the last PC. It must either be a faulty modem, DUN settings or Win 2000 doesn't like Freeserve or vice versa......

Looks like a few hours will disappear over the weekend trying to get to the bottom of it....
Old 11 May 2001, 08:28 AM
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Lee

I'm on a BT ISDN line with BT connect as my ISP.

No probs with any sites that I regularly visit but I still can't find 22b.com

Any other ideas?

Rich
Old 11 May 2001, 09:43 AM
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not there.

tried bbs.22b.com and
Old 11 May 2001, 09:50 AM
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Defo down now.

Error I got is:

&gt;&gt;DNS lookup error : The proxy tried to obtain a response from an origin server or another gateway, but the other device sent a negative response.
Old 11 May 2001, 09:52 AM
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Mine was down too yesterday.

RichS, how much do you pay for BT ISDN cos, we moved to adsl and the rental halved, and connection speed was 10 times faster. Yes it is supposed to drop with multiple users but it has never gone below 8 times faster.

And then we dont pay call charges anymore.
Old 11 May 2001, 11:19 AM
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Hi,

Tried 22B.com from home (BT Openworld), and from work (last night/today). It is definately dead - DNS is resolved, but pings fail .

ADSL is very cool, although the contention ratio of 50/1 (or 20/1 for the more expensive options) will slow things down. It is usually way cheaper than ISDN too, but you will have problems converting your ISDN installation. Maybe better to order a new line and then cancel ISDN.

Luckily the average age of residents in my area is 90 so I get all the bandwidth to myself .

Cheers,

Alex


Old 11 May 2001, 01:32 PM
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I dare say it's been hacked. The other day when I tried to access
Old 11 May 2001, 01:39 PM
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Can get in now, but noe of the threads are working, well a few but not the ones I want to read.
Old 11 May 2001, 02:52 PM
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Andy - amusing to read that "I daresay it has been hacked" lol ok, must be then

AlexM - can't say why your pings failed
(213.165.145.24 ?) but I assure you the server is there and has been there all the time.

Now then enough of the random guesses and BS..look at this :


C:&gt;nslookup
Default Server: ns3.siwd.net
Address: 213.165.154.4

&gt; bbs.22b.com
Server: ns3.siwd.net
Address: 213.165.154.4

Name: bbs.22b.com
Address: 213.165.145.24

&gt; server ns0.bt.net
Default Server: ns0.bt.net
Address: 194.72.6.51

&gt; bbs.22b.com
Server: ns0.bt.net
Address: 194.72.6.51

*** ns0.bt.net can't find bbs.22b.com: Non-existent domain
&gt;


As you can see, my server resolves it correctly. Therefore the problem is with the domain. Could it be that it expired on 14-March ?



[This message has been edited by Lee (edited 11 May 2001).]
Old 11 May 2001, 03:26 PM
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My apologies Moray

I'm at work now and it is non-existent - it was OK last night from home.....

I tried using the IP address Lee gave but also get the same message "HTTP 500".

Dead ?

Thanks

Gavin
Old 11 May 2001, 03:56 PM
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You can't use an IP.
Old 11 May 2001, 04:11 PM
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they have got rid of it as the 22b owners have seen the light and sold up for a sapphire cosworth!
Old 11 May 2001, 04:15 PM
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Lee,

Hmmm, your server resolves it correctly... lemme see now...

[22B.COM]

Domain servers in listed order:

NS3.SIWD.NET 213.165.154.4
NS4.SIWD.NET 213.165.154.5

Oh, there you go, your server is authoritative for the domain so it ought to be resolving correctly! I guess that the NS records from the .com TLD have been dropped, and that is why most of the world can't "see" it

Someone needs to refresh the record...

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 11 May 2001, 04:28 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Adam M:
<B>
RichS, how much do you pay for BT ISDN cos, we moved to adsl and the rental halved, and connection speed was 10 times faster. Yes it is supposed to drop with multiple users but it has never gone below 8 times faster.

And then we dont pay call charges anymore.[/quote]

Adam

Our ISDN connection is part of a BT business highway, so I've got multiple devices plugged into it.

I did look at ADSL some time ago, but there was some reason why I was better off staying with my current setup. (It's Friday, I've had a hard day and I'd damned if I can remember the costs or the reason not to change)

Probably worth revisiting though.

We're unmetered too...

Cheers

Rich
Old 11 May 2001, 04:33 PM
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Hi All!

For the benefit of those who want to look at 22b.com while there is a TLD problem, I have setup my server as a slave and am running a proxy on it (squid).

To use it, just set your proxy server to nanobyte.demon.co.uk port 8080 for FTP HTTP and SSL. Just don't leave it set at that indefinitely, I am only on a poor 64kbps line y'know!

Lee&gt; fancy doing the same thing with your big-*** server ?

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 11 May 2001, 05:22 PM
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lol always a complex solution to a simple problem pat

I'm only going to say this once more.

The..domain..has..expired..

wait until monday when it will be up and running again. I've put another 50p into the meter
Old 11 May 2001, 06:05 PM
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Lee,

It may be a complex solution, but it works Furthermore, it allows access to 22B.com over the weekend, before the parking meter is topped up again Thought there might be some people out there getting withdrawal symptoms 'n'all

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 12 May 2001, 01:51 AM
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22B.com used to be hosted by ITWW or "IT world wide" which was fine whilst Steven Dunton was in charge.

Steven Spicer took over after Steven Dunton moved onto higher paid and more demanding IT roles.

Steven Spicer is a star, not only did he "do a runner" owing me a months heavily subsidised rent on my flat in London he can't even work out how to maintain a Domain registration fee.

To say I am not impressed is an understatement
Old 12 May 2001, 03:56 AM
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Sadly, because someone forgot to refresh the domain, and because those nice people at Infopop decided to break just about every rule in the book with regard to website design, the only way to keep 22B.com visible until the TLD is refreshed is to use a proxy which can resolve bbs.22b.com itself.

If those nice people at Infopop had used root relative rather than absolute self referencing URLs then I could have mapped 22b.com into some of my own domain space with Apache's mod_proxy, which would have been much less effort, at least for the users since then they could just access it under a different URL rather than having to update their proxy settings.

I think that most nameservers must now have expired their cached copies of 22b.com hosts since there is no new traffic on bbs.22b.com (which is still there, just in hiding ). What is scary is how long the records have lingered in nameservers across the internet!

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 14 May 2001, 12:26 PM
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Just to let you know it is back up and running again (has been for the last couple of days).

Thanks for all the calls regarding its disapearance I am touched
Old 15 May 2001, 10:37 PM
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Cheers for the kind words Anders,

Apoligies to anyone that came to ITWW last year when I was running things. Unfortunatly as Anders says better prospects were on the horizon so I had to jump ship.

The new manager is very new at the hosting game as so gets confused easily because of this 90% of the customers complained to me, so they moved on to SIWD (http://www.siwd.net) all of them contacted me again and said the service level was back to it's usual levels (Cheers Lee!)

If you are still with ITWW, and are getting p*ss*d off, give Lee a shout and I'm sure he'll sort it.

Many Thanks to all those that supported ITWW, and I bid it farewell......

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