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Old 23 April 2015, 10:48 AM
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Hi guys and gals

I am wanting to smarten up the handling on my WR1 - it UNDERSTEERS (edit) like a bit** lol

I currently have BC coilovers fitted and was thinking of adding some anti roll bars fitted.

whiteline 22mil front & 24mil rear & an anti lift kit

would these work well and is there anything that would improve the set up

I basically want to get everything done all at once and just call it a day and enjoy my whip.

I look forward to your wisdom and exp

thanks

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Old 23 April 2015, 10:56 AM
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Have you had the alignment done since fitting the mods?
Old 23 April 2015, 11:02 AM
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Ive not done the mods yet lol

Although the coilovers where fitted about 9months back and alignment was done then

but it understeers hard
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Are you suffering with understeer or oversteer? Your first post says one, and the second says another.....
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soz guys lol

early morn lol - I meant understeers
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If it suffers from over steer and its standard theres something wrong with it. They suffer under steer as standard.
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will the above mods (or any mods) correct that understeer?
Old 23 April 2015, 12:00 PM
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decent tyres would be a start, and adjusting your coilovers
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A thicker ARB will help sort it out. I fitted a 22mm rear one to my WRX with stock suspension and it pretty much ironed out all the understeer. When pushing hard it still gives a little though so there is room for improvement.
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Would benefit Roll centre/ bump steer
When running coils , esp if OEM height is altered
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Mine has the following:
BC coilovers,
Bump-steer mod.
ALK. Thicker adjustable rear arb.
Solid drop links all round.
Full geometry from Carnetix.

The late, great Harvey Smith praised it's handling.

As for alignment, get it done properly. Loads of places offer full four-wheel alignment, very few do correct geometry. Carnetix discuss what you want, how you drive, possible drawbacks, tyre wear etc etc, before carrying out the mods. Then they test it with you in the passenger seat to see it's doing what they want, then they let you drive it.

Well worth the money and the journey.
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I have a set of new P zero on
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Would benefit Roll centre/ bump steer
When running coils , esp if OEM height is altered
Yes the previous owner had it lowered but I am having it raised to OEM height

just bought my C spanners so that it can be done
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Mine has the following:
BC coilovers,
Bump-steer mod.
ALK. Thicker adjustable rear arb.
Solid drop links all round.
Full geometry from Carnetix.

The late, great Harvey Smith praised it's handling.

As for alignment, get it done properly. Loads of places offer full four-wheel alignment, very few do correct geometry. Carnetix discuss what you want, how you drive, possible drawbacks, tyre wear etc etc, before carrying out the mods. Then they test it with you in the passenger seat to see it's doing what they want, then they let you drive it.

Well worth the money and the journey.

that sounds like a plan

thanks mate
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As on your other thread and I'll not tell you again, get yourself down to Scooby Clinic and have a chat with Kev and his boys, it's a one stop shop.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
As on your other thread and I'll not tell you again, get yourself down to Scooby Clinic and have a chat with Kev and his boys, it's a one stop shop.
I'm in discussions with Kev

Will post an update when I make a decision

thanks all
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Wise move, good lad.
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A vote here for Carnetix for handling mods.
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Another akternative is to go and see the guys at Sheffied Subaru Service, will certainly be a lot lighter on the wallet.
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Yes i will see if martin can source the bits i need for cheaper
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A bit of reading for you.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-uk-roads.html

And a bit more.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-lowering.html

Hopefully should give you a better idea of what you want and what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
A bit of reading for you.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-uk-roads.html

And a bit more.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-lowering.html

Hopefully should give you a better idea of what you want and what you're talking about.
Just read through both of those and it's blown my mind a bit lol

So on a 2003 WRX wagon on oem shocks/springs. (sorry to thread hijack OP) would a combination of decent tyres, a 22mm rear arb and a roll centre correction kit be the way to go? Car is my daily driver and sees all sorts of roads. I just want to lose some of the understeer. Car will probably never see a track. Or just go with the rear ARB and see what I think after that....?

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Originally Posted by alcazar
A vote here for Carnetix for handling mods.
2nd vote for Glynn and Becky
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WR1 has DCCD right? If so, open that sucker up and see how it feels.
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Originally Posted by Ste333
Just read through both of those and it's blown my mind a bit lol

So on a 2003 WRX wagon on oem shocks/springs. (sorry to thread hijack OP) would a combination of decent tyres, a 22mm rear arb and a roll centre correction kit be the way to go? Car is my daily driver and sees all sorts of roads. I just want to lose some of the understeer. Car will probably never see a track. Or just go with the rear ARB and see what I think after that....?
You won't need a roll centre correction kit as they are for when you go really low on after market springs or coilovers.

You might want to consider an anti-lift kit and solid roll bar drop links.

But for me best bang for buck was the PCA dynamics springs @£200 from the group buy off here. You can dial a lot of the understeer out with poly bushes (cheap) and geo set up, it's also easier to control than oversteer if your not used to it.
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Originally Posted by Ste333
Just read through both of those and it's blown my mind a bit lol

So on a 2003 WRX wagon on oem shocks/springs. (sorry to thread hijack OP) would a combination of decent tyres, a 22mm rear arb and a roll centre correction kit be the way to go? Car is my daily driver and sees all sorts of roads. I just want to lose some of the understeer. Car will probably never see a track. Or just go with the rear ARB and see what I think after that....?
Nothing will help with oem shocks, don't waste Your money
even standard spec c handling is poor, japs compare it to evo and they say they wish to achieve handling like in audi s4
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Originally Posted by fawor
Nothing will help with oem shocks, don't waste Your money
even standard spec c handling is poor, japs compare it to evo and they say they wish to achieve handling like in audi s4
Shocks are fine for a road car on the WRX, it's the springs that need changing. any thing more and it ruins the ride quality for daily driving over potholed UK roads, mine is a nice compromise between handling and not having your back teeth rattled out or p1ssing blood from your kidneys.
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I have a wr1 on standard suspension and I wouldn't say it understeers anywhere like as terminally as you're explaining... If anything it understeers slightly and then you can feel the DCCD shuffle power and it neutralises and then will hold the line or oversteer if you stab the noisy pedal! It seems like a full geo setup would be a good idea!
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Originally Posted by Carlos85
I have a wr1 on standard suspension and I wouldn't say it understeers anywhere like as terminally as you're explaining... If anything it understeers slightly and then you can feel the DCCD shuffle power and it neutralises and then will hold the line or oversteer if you stab the noisy pedal! It seems like a full geo setup would be a good idea!
i think it mite be the coilovers that are adding to it and its been lowered big time

Geo and set up is due - will post once its done
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