jaygsi

iTrader: (46)

Now I know that we no longer have tax discs, and a new law has come in saying you can't sell a car with tax, does anyone know when this law kicks in?

As I've seen a few people listing cars with 6 months tax, which to be fair they could have 6 month on there old tax disc still, my mum tax disc runs out on the 31/07/2015.

So does that mean you can sell your tax on if you have a disc, or does that make no difference, only info I found was this

Motorists that sell cars privately will no longer be entitled to offer the "unexpired tax" incentive that adds value. Why? Because the absence of discs could make it easier for sellers to misrepresent how much tax is remaining. So, sellers will have to claim refunds for remaining months from the DVLA. Buyers will then re-tax online, at post offices, or via the phone before taking to the road.

averyp2

iTrader: (25)

It's already live.

Sellers get automatic rebate from dvla and buyers must tax on day of purchase (tax is non transferable)

wrx300scooby

Correct

Steve001

iTrader: (7)

Afaik this only applies to cars taxed under the new system

IanFroggatt

It's all cars, I sold my old car with 4 months left on the disc, got a refund 2-3 weeks later, just by sending v5 back with change of ownership.

ADY 555

Updates and advice on abolition of the vehicle tax disc.




From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed. Customers with a Northern Ireland address will still need to display their MoT disc.
There is a video available (Goodbye to the tax disc) which explains that the tax disc will no longer be issued from 1 October 2014. You can watch the video on our YouTube channel.
You can apply online to tax or SORN your vehicle using your 16 digit reference number from your vehicle tax renewal reminder (V11) or 11 digit reference number from your log book (V5C)

What this means to you

To drive or keep a vehicle on the road you will still need to get vehicle tax and DVLA will still send you a renewal reminder when your vehicle tax is due to expire. This applies to all types of vehicles including those that are exempt from payment of vehicle tax.
Buying a vehicle

From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.
You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.
Selling a vehicle

If you sell a vehicle after 1 October and you have notified DVLA, you will automatically get a refund for any full calendar months left on the vehicle tax.
Vehicle tax refunds

You will no longer need to make a separate application for a refund of vehicle tax. DVLA will automatically issue a refund when a notification is received from the person named on DVLA vehicle register that the:


vehicle has been sold or transferred
vehicle has been scrapped at an Authorised Treatment Facility
vehicle has been exported
vehicle has been removed from the road and the person on the vehicle register has made a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN)
person on the vehicle register has changed the tax class on the vehicle to an exempt duty tax class
Paying vehicle tax by Direct Debit

From 1 October 2014 (5 October if setting up at a Post Office®), Direct Debit will be offered as an additional way to pay for vehicle tax. This will be available for customers who need to tax their vehicle from 1 November 2014:

annually
6 monthly
monthly (12 months tax paid for on a monthly basis)
Provided an MOT remains valid, the payments will continue automatically until you tell DVLA to stop taking them or you cancel the Direct Debit with your bank. Valid insurance should also be in place for vehicles registered in Northern Ireland.
The Direct Debit will be cancelled and payments automatically stopped when you tell DVLA that you no longer have the vehicle, or the vehicle has been taken off the road and a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) has been made.
When the Direct Debit scheme can’t be used

Paying by Direct Debit will not be available to:

first registration vehicles
fleet schemes
HGVs (paying the Road User Levy)
Checking the tax status of a vehicle

You can check the tax status of any vehicle online. This can also be used for rental vehicles.

neil-h

Not strictly true. This is the important bit,

The DVLA still rely on a paper based system for changes of ownership, so potentialy the car could still be taxed by the previous owner for up to 6 weeks (iirc according to the DVLA) while the DVLA receive/process the V5C.

Steve001

iTrader: (7)

Thanks for the info above
What gets me going is the amount of revenue gained on cars sold early in the month grrrrrr

huzzy1

iTrader: (1)

So, I sold my car 16 Nov, had a rebate for the remaining full 4 months. Seller taxed the car the day he drove it away-had to be taxed from 1 Nov 14. So DVLA receive 2 months tax 'gratis'.

Exactly the same when I bought my new car a week later, the seller lost out on the month of Nov, just getting a refund from Dec onwards, then I lost out on the month too.

So from potentially each deal being done DVLA are getting 2 months 'gratis' tax from each sale.

Steve001

iTrader: (7)

Little tinkers aren't they

Trinity

iTrader: (28)

It would probably be illegal if someone started a crusade against it, and the time, desire and money to win

jaygsi

iTrader: (46)

That's cleared it up then, I will in form the seller, so I can get some money knocked off

scoobyland

The new car tax rulers are absolutely pathetic.

Trinity

iTrader: (28)

Bow down to the enlightenment

Tony Harrington

iTrader: (8)

This is another one of those issue that seriously winds me up, we are just sitting targets that particular government departments benefit from by filling their buckets with our money.

jaygsi

iTrader: (46)

Although having the option to pay monthly will be better for some, including myself as my car is on and off the road regularly.

Plus if your selling your car why not just pull the tax off it before you sell, surely most will have bought another car before selling there own

Trinity

iTrader: (28)

You miss the point Jay (again lol), its not about pulling your tax off, that is standard and you will get refunded, its if you buy a car mid month, you get charged two weeks from the start of the month even though you didn't own it then. Criminal.

jaygsi

iTrader: (46)

No I did see that point for once

But that's always been the case. If the cars had no tax. Or course this will be a lot more regular occurrence now you can't transfer tax.

Trinity

iTrader: (28)

Hurrah, you are nearly there. Yes, imagine ALL those car sales, where the government is really getting completely free money for absolutely nothing. I know everyone will say they always get money for nothing, but this is a completely clear case of Rip Off Britain, and this, is/was the point