What's it worth: 2005 JDM Hawkeye Widetrack
09 August 2014, 08:28 AM
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What's it worth: 2005 JDM Hawkeye Widetrack
2005 JDM STI - 2ltr- Hawkeye
UK registered in July 2010
Crystal Grey
One owner (current)
Just over 18,500 miles
Documented history (project thread on here) - a "trusted" owner.
Overview of current specification is here.
Most recent images of car are here.
Mechanically sound, regularly serviced and maintained.
Wants for nothing in the mods department, developed (as per project thread, sponsored/supported by some of the best guys in the Subaru scene) to produce and handle 490bhp/475lbft. Purrs like a kitten, doesn't consume any oil..... all you have to do is worry about how much petrol you have left in the tank.
Bodywork/Interior - good condition commensurate to mileage.
Now the important bit
This example car (lol) is NOT currently for sale.
Based on what you've been informed about above, could you please provide a "priced to sell" view, based on the scenario that best suits you:
- If you're on the look out for a Newage JDM 2ltr, based on your research to date, what would you be prepared to pay for this car?
- If you're a JDM owner not in the market to buy - what do you think this car is worth?
- If you're a non-JDM owner not in the market to buy - what do you think this car is worth?
Please state your scenario number (1, 2 or 3) followed by your "worth" amount.
09 August 2014, 09:08 AM
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Scenario 2
Sold mine too cheap. Mine had 38k miles on it.
I'd say keep it as I can only see values increasing.
If not I'd say £14-15k the build in some ways doesn't increase it's value as a lot of people (me included) would want a more standard car.
Sold mine too cheap. Mine had 38k miles on it.
I'd say keep it as I can only see values increasing.
If not I'd say £14-15k the build in some ways doesn't increase it's value as a lot of people (me included) would want a more standard car.
09 August 2014, 09:13 AM
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Scenario 2.
I would think about 13k, the mods at this level can make the car more difficult to insure for some so doesn't really increase the value a lot as the market is smaller.
I would think about 13k, the mods at this level can make the car more difficult to insure for some so doesn't really increase the value a lot as the market is smaller.
09 August 2014, 10:23 AM
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id say 14k all day long
factor in you could probably still get 12.5 or 13 if fairly standard so you could remove mods etc and sell them to still fetch 14k or so?
id want 13k for mine and its got twice the mileage
factor in you could probably still get 12.5 or 13 if fairly standard so you could remove mods etc and sell them to still fetch 14k or so?
id want 13k for mine and its got twice the mileage
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09 August 2014, 11:28 AM
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I'm the 3rd owner
Imported from new
Full documented history with book
Car is in good condition body wise
Always serviced with proper fluids and oils at 6k miles
72k mileage
Imported from new
Full documented history with book
Car is in good condition body wise
Always serviced with proper fluids and oils at 6k miles
72k mileage
09 August 2014, 12:27 PM
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It's a Hawkeye STI in the same colour that appears to be in good nick.
It being from a dealer means that there's some fat in the price.
JDM adds no value for me because it's an import. If anything it detracts value because it might be more expensive to insure year on year.
Mods don't add any value either, again because they'll be more expensive to insure if they're all declared, and not only that it'll cost more to maintain because as & when parts are replaced (with OEM) chances are it'll run like crap because of the mapping.
I might revise my estimate a little because I overlooked the fact that the car has only 18.5K on it (I'd missed that initially), but not by much.
It being from a dealer means that there's some fat in the price.
JDM adds no value for me because it's an import. If anything it detracts value because it might be more expensive to insure year on year.
Mods don't add any value either, again because they'll be more expensive to insure if they're all declared, and not only that it'll cost more to maintain because as & when parts are replaced (with OEM) chances are it'll run like crap because of the mapping.
I might revise my estimate a little because I overlooked the fact that the car has only 18.5K on it (I'd missed that initially), but not by much.
09 August 2014, 12:31 PM
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If he was to hold firm on that kind of money it would take the right buyer to appreciate it I suppose. If I had 13k in my head and I really liked the car upon viewing and had been looking for "the one" then I probably would give 14k for it, as they say it's worth what someone is willing to pay
09 August 2014, 12:37 PM
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If you buy a 2.5 with the thought trail of modifications and to push them like the boys do on a 2.0 then your buying in to a false economy imo as when the problems start that 9k car with 100k mileage is soon gonna need 4k thrown at it and that's being conservative, not such a cheap car any more.
09 August 2014, 12:38 PM
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To compare Shaun's JDM Hawk with a UK Spec D as two comparative models either shows your ignorance or facetiousness.
09 August 2014, 12:40 PM
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if i was in the market for a JDM hawk with mileage and mods as stated i would expect to pay about £17k knowing that a standard car with higher miles at traders are anything from £13k up then there's approx over £6k of upgrades spent on your car
however as everything Shaun you have the time waster no wanting to pay a fair price for a car of this spec by saying X Y Z
if people also contacted specialist insurance companys they would also find out that a JDM subaru is no dearer than a uk car and thats speaking from the horses mouth as ive had both a uk and a jdm sti
bang for buck you cant beat a JDM twinscroll
however as everything Shaun you have the time waster no wanting to pay a fair price for a car of this spec by saying X Y Z
if people also contacted specialist insurance companys they would also find out that a JDM subaru is no dearer than a uk car and thats speaking from the horses mouth as ive had both a uk and a jdm sti
bang for buck you cant beat a JDM twinscroll
09 August 2014, 01:05 PM
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It's not about saying the car's worth "a million pounds" it's about giving it a honest valuation. If you honestly think a JDM Hawkeye STi with 18500 miles on it is worth less than £9k then I'll buy all I can and sell them on for £5K profit on each
09 August 2014, 02:33 PM
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It's not a T-Hawk but it's got more power, very low mileage and verifiable history (and owner), so £2-3k less perhaps?
Given T-Hawk prices (rare as the cars I suppose) seen over the past couple of years I'd therefore put a figure of £14-15k on it.
09 August 2014, 03:09 PM
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It's a Hawkeye STI in the same colour that appears to be in good nick.
It being from a dealer means that there's some fat in the price.
JDM adds no value for me because it's an import. If anything it detracts value because it might be more expensive to insure year on year.
Mods don't add any value either, again because they'll be more expensive to insure if they're all declared, and not only that it'll cost more to maintain because as & when parts are replaced (with OEM) chances are it'll run like crap because of the mapping.
I might revise my estimate a little because I overlooked the fact that the car has only 18.5K on it (I'd missed that initially), but not by much.
It being from a dealer means that there's some fat in the price.
JDM adds no value for me because it's an import. If anything it detracts value because it might be more expensive to insure year on year.
Mods don't add any value either, again because they'll be more expensive to insure if they're all declared, and not only that it'll cost more to maintain because as & when parts are replaced (with OEM) chances are it'll run like crap because of the mapping.
I might revise my estimate a little because I overlooked the fact that the car has only 18.5K on it (I'd missed that initially), but not by much.
09 August 2014, 03:58 PM
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Its funny because you compared the spec d with this jdm and said you would be saving the extra premium on the insurance, but what you forget is the road tax is lot cheaper on the JDM models, so any money you would be saving over the years wouldnt make that much a difference and the depreciation is going to be a lot more kinder to a JDM then a Spec D, so buying a Spec D to save on the running costs wont make a difference!!!
Im in the market for a JDM hawk after xmas and I would be looking at paying anything upto £15k for the right JDM hawk STi.
Im in the market for a JDM hawk after xmas and I would be looking at paying anything upto £15k for the right JDM hawk STi.
09 August 2014, 04:01 PM
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Understand what?
What that car is worth to me? I understand that perfectly well.
What you don't understand is that I don't think it's worth as much as you do.
And as has already been pointed out, what it's actually worth is what someone will pay for it when it goes on the market. If there are no JDM loving buyers with a pile of cash burning a hole in their pocket at the time, it'll go for less than the seller wants ... OR ... it just won't sell at all.
What that car is worth to me? I understand that perfectly well.
What you don't understand is that I don't think it's worth as much as you do.
And as has already been pointed out, what it's actually worth is what someone will pay for it when it goes on the market. If there are no JDM loving buyers with a pile of cash burning a hole in their pocket at the time, it'll go for less than the seller wants ... OR ... it just won't sell at all.
As I said it's ok not to understand. Once you do, you will understand the premium they hold.
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09 August 2014, 04:30 PM
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Not for me it doesn't. They're both cheap jap cars, one is intended for the UK market, and the other isn't. I live in the UK.
If I wanted a 400+ BHP 4 doored, 4WD car, I could get something like this for the ~£14K that you seem to think the impreza is worth. They're really not in the same league.
If I wanted a 400+ BHP 4 doored, 4WD car, I could get something like this for the ~£14K that you seem to think the impreza is worth. They're really not in the same league.