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Old 29 July 2014, 08:01 PM
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Default Decat + Remap gains 2.5 STi?

Looking into this for later in the year when my warranty expires.

Are the Japspeed decat downpipes:-

A: Any good
B: Mate to standard exhaust system

Any other recommendations?
Supporting mods?

Based on past experience, would probably be looking to use Andy F as the mapper.

What sort of gains can be achieved safely on standard internals, once fitted and remapped?

Yeah, I know it's a standard 2.5 and will blow up etc. but WTF?

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Old 29 July 2014, 08:11 PM
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Might be best to fit a walbro in tank pump too.

Std exhaust will be 2.5" so as long as the downpipe has the same end you should be fine. I have a 3" downpipe with 2.5" reduced end.

Should get up to 350bhp easy enough. Keep the boost below 1.35bar on a std 2.5 lump to give it a fighting chance.

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Old 29 July 2014, 08:12 PM
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My mates 08sti full decat and panel filter 375bhp 405 ft/lb mapped by andy f 16months ago
Old 29 July 2014, 08:12 PM
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Forgot its a full japspeed system
Old 29 July 2014, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
Forgot its a full japspeed system
Where abouts is Andy based
Old 29 July 2014, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
My mates 08sti full decat and panel filter 375bhp 405 ft/lb mapped by andy f 16months ago
Those are the only mods? Assume from 08MY it's a hatchback? No mods to the pistons, gasket or anything like that?
Old 29 July 2014, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick81
Where abouts is Andy based
Near Edinburgh.
Old 29 July 2014, 08:16 PM
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Port seton mate
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Those are the only mods? Assume from 08MY it's a hatchback? No mods to the pistons, gasket or anything like that?
yes hatchback and only thing i missed it fuel pump all standard internals
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Hmmm, interesting. Final question:- Does the full decat mean an auto-fail for the MOT? Sorry for all the questions, I know it's not even your car!
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Think mine's already fitted with an uprated fuel pump as part of PPP, would it be up to the task?
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My old Hawk STi made 377bhp 412lb/ft with a full 3"inch decat exhaust system, FMIC, induction kit, ecutek remap!!

The 2.5 litre in my hawk did 61k miles when I sold it last month and running 377bhp for about 45k miles of it and all on the standard internals, so untouched internally!!

But If your going to worry at every little noise I would advise not to do the mods, but if you have it in your head that it will one day blow up and you will have it forged then go for it, but no point in doing it if you think the extra bhp/lb/ft is going to break your engine, no matter if you tell your mapper you want it at a safe power!!
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Originally Posted by Bored Secretary
Hmmm, interesting. Final question:- Does the full decat mean an auto-fail for the MOT? Sorry for all the questions, I know it's not even your car!
Yes mate it will fail mot
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My mates has 60k on the clock and never missed a beat from mapping till present day
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
My old Hawk STi made 377bhp 412lb/ft with a full 3"inch decat exhaust system, FMIC, induction kit, ecutek remap!!

The 2.5 litre in my hawk did 61k miles when I sold it last month and running 377bhp for about 45k miles of it and all on the standard internals, so untouched internally!!

But If your going to worry at every little noise I would advise not to do the mods, but if you have it in your head that it will one day blow up and you will have it forged then go for it, but no point in doing it if you think the extra bhp/lb/ft is going to break your engine, no matter if you tell your mapper you want it at a safe power!!
I'm relatively new to Subaru ownership after buying a 10 Hatch STi with PPP in May. So when I bought it, I signed up here all excited and read the ringland thread as my first thread. What a mistake that was.

I've got over my initial paranoia, which wasn't helped by the car being the most rattle-prone machine I'd ever driven. Once I got used to that, all was sweet.

The experiences of people whose cars are spot on is a great counterbalance to those who have had poor experiences though; and as I learn about the car I'm in a better place to make an informed judgement as time progresses. Hence the questions.
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Originally Posted by peter zippy reid
My mates has 60k on the clock and never missed a beat from mapping till present day
Same here. Currently on 65k on my std 2.5 lump and have run 340bhp for last 2+ years and 20k + miles.
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Originally Posted by Bored Secretary
I'm relatively new to Subaru ownership after buying a 10 Hatch STi with PPP in May. So when I bought it, I signed up here all excited and read the ringland thread as my first thread. What a mistake that was.

I've got over my initial paranoia, which wasn't helped by the car being the most rattle-prone machine I'd ever driven. Once I got used to that, all was sweet.

The experiences of people whose cars are spot on is a great counterbalance to those who have had poor experiences though; and as I learn about the car I'm in a better place to make an informed judgement as time progresses. Hence the questions.
I knew all about the problems the 2.5 engine had and still went out and bought one
Got more important things to worry about then if my headgasket/ringlands are going to break, Lucky enough ive been on the forum for 10 years so no who to take the car too and what to buy etc and more importantly who to trust to build the engine!!

If I was to buy a Audi/BMW and something went wrong with the engine or gearbox it would probably cost a lot more then to have a engine re-build on a Subaru.

Just enjoy your car thats the best advice I can give!!!
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345bhp/395lbft on 06 sti with ppp downpipe & uprated pump on 97ron fuel, bob rawle mapped
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340/380 with full decat and remap. No need to change the fuel pump as the hawk is already updated. Ran mine for 3 years and never missed a beat and makes for a wicked road car. the only thing I would say is it became very noisy as it had an afterburner on it which I ended up changing for a quieter one and it was a bit smelly!!! Next time I wouldn't go the whole decat route and will be using a sports cat instead which will also be ok for MOT.
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Decat , tgv delete , pump , filter , made 380bhp (mapped by bob) ,, 60k and been running that power for the last 10k and engine is still fine
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Mine made 353/395 EcuTeck race-rom sports down pipe that came with the PPP, Blitz Nur spec 3" center and back box and a Roger Clark induction kit ( purely for the sound)

I was not getting the car maped to get big numbers just a safe map to replace the PPP generic map that was done with just 10 miles on the clock from new. car has now done 42K
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Sorry double post

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Old 30 July 2014, 01:12 PM
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will already have the walbro but I swapped it for a nice new one just so that I knew it would last old one still worked fine too, mines made 350 with a 200cell 3" downpipe to a blitz nur spec on standard air intake with standard air filter, spooled well and had virtually no flat spots apart from the tailing at the end. As long as its mapped well aka Andy should be fine
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