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Old 17 January 2012, 05:31 PM
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To replace my classic .. family size ..

That's about it for requirements ..
Old 17 January 2012, 05:39 PM
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you looking at Focus type things, cheap to run, cheap to insure, newer or BMW, Merc, performance, etc where you would need to buy older cost more in juice but a much more comfortable place to be and potentially a bit of fun?
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Mondeo St tdci, can they be picked up for about 3k?

Or 320d
Old 17 January 2012, 05:44 PM
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A golf tdi estate is a great cheap car, and the 130 models are nippy for what they are too
Old 17 January 2012, 05:50 PM
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ive a mondeo zetec s tdci, brilliant!
Old 17 January 2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev_turbo
you looking at Focus type things, cheap to run, cheap to insure, newer or BMW, Merc, performance, etc where you would need to buy older cost more in juice but a much more comfortable place to be and potentially a bit of fun?
fun if I can ..

Originally Posted by Ant
Mondeo St tdci, can they be picked up for about 3k?

Or 320d
Been told ford diesel are **** ..

320 for 3k?
Old 17 January 2012, 05:59 PM
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£3.5K is 320 money

But insurance isn't brilliant on them.

Bit cramped inside too...think focus size inside in the back.

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Old 17 January 2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
£3.5K is 320 money

But insurance isn't brilliant on them.

Bit cramped inside too...think focus size inside in the back.
What about a vectra estate ?
Old 17 January 2012, 06:31 PM
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I heard the same about ford diesels, touch wood not one issue and great on fuel! even I get 38mpg all the time, ive seen over 50 on a run.
Old 17 January 2012, 06:33 PM
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My old golf 130 would do 45 all day everywhere and you would see 55 on a motorway spin. Driving sensible of course
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Been looking at 320s but all over 100k..
Old 17 January 2012, 08:55 PM
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100k pffft just run in mate, dont let that put u off.
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Originally Posted by bioforger
100k pffft just run in mate, dont let that put u off.
Really?
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Originally Posted by bioforger
100k pffft just run in mate, dont let that put u off.

NO!!!


At that age and mileage I'd want to see invoices for new shocks, new lower arm bushes and possibly rear arms as well.

Also for M54 petrol engines: themostat, MAF, and Cam sensors. And also a live data read out of the Vanos actual values vs target when the revs are below 2000rpm.


Other than that, yeah 'just run in'
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
NO!!!


At that age and mileage I'd want to see invoices for new shocks, new lower arm bushes and possibly rear arms as well.

Also for M54 petrol engines: themostat, MAF, and Cam sensors. And also a live data read out of the Vanos actual values vs target when the revs are below 2000rpm.


Other than that, yeah 'just run in'
My head just exploded ...
Old 17 January 2012, 09:24 PM
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The thing is for £3K you are looking at an E46 and as you've seen 100K plus.

Now they are at the stage where things are going to start going wrong and start to cost you.

I can't decide whether to spend £3K on something sensible or go for another good classic. Or even borrow a bit so I've got £5K and something sensible or a bug sti.

My issue is that will I really save that much going sensible. Granted both cars could throw up a bill but modern diesels seem more likely to give issues. Any big bill = a DMF for example - will wipe out any fuel saving for at least that year.

I might just spend £1K on having LPG fitted to my Jeep - should make the fuel bill go from stupid to almost acceptable Its design is so ancient there really isn't that much that can go wrong!

Mondeo could be a good shout but I'm not keen on the looks.

Originally Posted by WhitlandSubaru
A golf tdi estate is a great cheap car, and the 130 models are nippy for what they are too
I'm just down the road from you in Haverfordwest

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I'm considering a Focus ST170, should get a decent one for that money
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Before my scooby i had a W reg BMW E46 323 coupe. it had full bmw service history 12 months mot 96k miles and 1 owner from new. I paid £1850 and never spent a penny on it. I only owned it for 10 months though so never MOT'd it myself so could have needed work at mot.

BMW's are gud cars but bloody boring to drive unless you are getting old
Old 17 January 2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I'm considering a Focus ST170, should get a decent one for that money
I've always tended to overlook these. Are they any good?

Found a really nice looking Leon Cupra 03 with 85K for £2800 but its a pain to get to as its Caernafon (north wales) even from west wales its a PITA.

We need 4 doors as theres 3 of us. We've had a diesel Leon for 4 years and its been completed neglected but never given any grief.
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
My head just exploded ...
Sorry, my point being is there are BMWs in that price bracket to be wary of:

Ones where the owner spends nothing on it. It'll still pass MOTs with no issues, but it won't handle or drive quite like it should unless had a few bob spent on it over its lifetime.

Bit like any car really. But people incorrectly assume that because it has a BMW badge it immune to wear and tear, because they aren't.
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Well yea stating the obvious really, but if it has decent dealer service history these jobs should have already been done.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Sorry, my point being is there are BMWs in that price bracket to be wary of:

Ones where the owner spends nothing on it. It'll still pass MOTs with no issues, but it won't handle or drive quite like it should unless had a few bob spent on it over its lifetime.

Bit like any car really. But people incorrectly assume that because it has a BMW badge it immune to wear and tear, because they aren't.
i agree, if you ever have a starter motor fault on a straight 6 E46 good luck cos it looked like an engine out job lol
Old 18 January 2012, 05:51 AM
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Get a merc s class diesel costs sweet fa and will make you feel like a russian mafia boss every time you drive it.
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Octavia VRS
Looks good massive boot too and parts and servicing is cheap
Remember BMW parts would finish you off on a budget

Skoda built to last that's why taxi drivers swear by them
Old 18 January 2012, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
Octavia VRS
Looks good massive boot too and parts and servicing is cheap
Remember BMW parts would finish you off on a budget

Skoda built to last that's why taxi drivers swear by them

I don't like the seats .. my mate has one, looks good, but just uncomfortable.
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Alternative then if the VRS seats are uncomfortable is a octavia L@K rather then sports seats nice big luxury seats and with the L&k you get all the toys as it was top of the range

Great car I ran one for 6 years trouble free and carried all sorts in it
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I'm considering a Focus ST170, should get a decent one for that money
You bored of the 172 already?

Although the focus will handle great, they really don't feel like having the 170bhp as stated by the factory.
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Originally Posted by lordharding
Octavia VRS
Looks good massive boot too and parts and servicing is cheap
Remember BMW parts would finish you off on a budget

Skoda built to last that's why taxi drivers swear by them
In my experience genuine VAG parts prices are typically no better than BMW. Unless you go non-genuine.

TPS (Trade Parts Specialists) having a cartel on VAG's UK parts operations doesn't really help. Although BMW's parts supply chain is no better either IMO.

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Originally Posted by Pedroturbo
i agree, if you ever have a starter motor fault on a straight 6 E46 good luck cos it looked like an engine out job lol
Its the other way round actually, you have to remove the starter motor first to allow you to remove engine from the car (and split it from the gearbox), otherwise there's no where strong to attach the engine to the hoist LOL!

Its pretty straight forward, just alot of nuts and bolts. On a M54 and M52 engine: remove the bulkhead/heater intake trim and then remove the inlet manifold and accompanying pipework, then its right underneath there.The six pot diesels are pretty much the same too.

Worst bit of the job is is the crankcase breather hoses snapping when trying to disconnect them because they've all gone brittle

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Old 18 January 2012, 11:47 AM
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Legacy gtb!

Impreza sti performance (a bit slower due to a tad more weight), but LOADS more interior space.

And if you decide to do some work on it, all the impreza tweaks bolt straight on!

£3k would get you a goodun!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-SUBAR...item1e6a437898


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