s70rjw

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Anyone know of a reputable Honda breakers? Mate is after an engine for a 2.2 Honda CR V diesel 2007 MY, after the timing chain snapped with catastrophic result. Honda have quoted around £10k, independent garage £4800 +vat for new block and head fitted with the old ancillaries.

Dedrater

You wouldn't expect that from a Honda!

Try here...

http://www.247spares.co.uk/honda/cr-v

s70rjw

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Cheers, Dedrater I'll pass that on. Just shows Hondas have their faults the same as any other brand. Catastrophic failure on a car that's not yet 4 years old though....

The Zohan

I thought 247 spares was one of the scam companies - claim to be linked to many breakers and you end up having to call or text on a premium number - may be wrong. I remember getting little or no help from them and finally a stupidly high price - more than a new part!

I would ask on here - yes i know it is a civic forum but i was a member a while back and got good advice. http://www.hondacivicforum.co.uk/

??? http://www.churchroadmotors.co.uk/breakers/breakers.asp (4 vehicles down)

s70rjw

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Thanks. Will I find PS Lewis trolling on there, or is that the one he's banned from?

Dedrater

He couldn't troll more than one forum?

247 does work, I have used it and it is free. The problem with it, I suppose is the nimber of emails you get offering what you want, use a different email addy, fake phone number I would suggest.

At the very least, it will open up avenues of contact.

Ian E

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Try Ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CR-V-CRV...item27bc754af1

Is this the one? £2795 Brand New (or Make Offer)

Cheers,

Ian.

ALi-B

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Best bet is a CAT C or B salvage. Pull the engine and ebay the rest.

£4.8K+vat sounds about right for a brand new long engine (genuine straight from the factory - NOT remanufactured/rebuilt/recon ) if it includes fitting.

ALi-B

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Not sure if its the same spec car as it is older (need to check engine codes and you may need to still swap ancillaries) but you just missed this on the 'bay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DAMAGED-CAT-C-...-/330565245902

Dedrater

Not trying to hijack the thread, more incorporate?

Ali-B, would you buy a cat D car, if you were someone of limited mechanical knowledge, but knowing what you know?

ALi-B

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Do you mean to buy one that is still damaged or one thats since been repaired, Ded?

Dedrater

Hmm, would like to know both sides if you have the time.

But, I would only ever be a buyer of such a car.

(SLK at a cat D)

Dedrater

Just to add.

It is more to do with safety, if the car were to crash again.

....in your opinion, as it were, non binding etc

ALi-B

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Totally down to the car itself; you can't treat them all as one of the same.

Remember you can very easily buy a damaged repaired car thats suffered severe damage but is unrecorded, as the insurer paid to fix it or the owner did it own his own pocket because he's on third party F+T insurance. This is the irony; you can have a cat D car thats potentially been through less trauma than a car with no insurance marker. This is why inspections should always be made on all cars be it cat D/C or not, as workmanship insurance repairs can be also be poor.

Cat D is an **** because it can literally mean anything from minor cosmetic stuff (or water damage) to heavy suspension damage. Chassis damage is usually minor as anything affecting the bodyshell's structure should be a cat C, however there are exceptions (an insurer can make more money auctioning a cat D car over one that is Cat C ).

For example a minor shunt that has just caused cosmetic damage but blown the airbags will quite easily write a car off due to the cost of replacing the airbags. But so long as the bags (and controllers) have been fixed, the safety integrity of the car is not affected at all.

So safety should be only concerned to areas have been damaged and repaired as well as the car's overall condition. If its done properly there should be absolutely no concern. For example, if the car has had suspension damage, one can assertain that is ok by having its geometry checked. Other stuff is purely down to workmanship I'm afraid, and that can vary wildly. Not just safety, but rust proofing and paint quality/durability, panel gaps etc.

One thing worth trying is putting the car's reg number into google. Sometimes it shows up the car on a salvage auction website, some with pictures of it before repair. Thats handy when giving the car a once over..

The only other thing is the car is always worth less than a comparable condition non cat D registered car. And it always puts people off come resale time due to the stigma attached (yet they happily buy a car unknowing that its been in a heavy shunt as it has no marker due to the insurer repaired it ).

But to answer the original question, yes I would buy one. But the price would have to be right. And I'd like pictures to assertain the pre-repair condition so I can better judge the quality of the repair and severity of damage.

Dedrater

Couldn't send you a private, Ali

I appreciate the reply, Thanks

pslewis

For a Honda Engine to fail something has been done wrong ..... bad servicing? Mis-treatment? If the car was known to Honda and was only 4 years old they would offer some help, I feel sure of that.

I would like to know the true story of how the chain snapped ... I guess I will never get it.

Dedrater

Pslewis, could you not send s70rjw a bit more advice?

It is a bit ridicules that a four year old car gets a new engine, cost being to the current owner.

Help this guy out if you can.

GC8

Help him out? He can only help him out by being quiet. When the man has a real problem the last thing he needs is a forum-Walter Mitty character talking rubbish on his thread asking for help.

GC8

With regards to HPI categorisation, and further to Ali's post - it depends only on the car. The classification really only helps you to know how its value will be affected come re-sale time; and how forum know-it-alls will postulate about the level of damage (usually copy and pasting the ABIs self-righteous waffle; showing that they really have no idea what theyre talking about).

I will substantiate my last remark using an example. I own a 1990 944, which I bought off an aquaintance after it was written off by his insurer. The car was hit from a
behind by a people carrier which just failed to stop in time: damaging the bumper and very slightly denting the panel between the rear lights. I have repaired the car using two new bumper mounts and a replacement bumper from a 1991 Turbo, bought in the correct colour: total cost £20. The was was written off and clasified as Category C by Admiral.....

Ive seen Porsches with dents with destruction orders (now Cat A/B) and slaughtered cars sold for repair (sometimes as Cat D!).

jef

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any engine can fail if mistreated, not treated as maker intended.

i worked for honda for a while

we had an old guy come in in his civi and seriously before it was 3 years old he had 4 clutches - as he revved the fcking ***** off it and slipped the clutch soooo badly everytime he pulled away from standing

you could literally here the mm's screaming off the friction plate as he drove away with the brandnew one lol

anyway just an example.

my friends have a honda specialist, indepandant garage and they struggle with getting decent prices on engines from a lot of the range, they seem extrmely expensive

s70rjw

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The car has covered 92k of mainly motorway miles, full Honda history. Dealer has offered a new engine at full price. That's the "true story of how the chain snapped" as you quite rightly put it.