GROWLER_GRRRR

i need 4X4 VEHICLE what do you lot think is the best for the money
I will keep the vehicle serviced to high standard but need it to be 100% reliable .....

Will be used not to any extream level just to pull a boat
twice a month..... sand = 4 x 4

landcruiser
patrol
terrano 3.0
toyota surf 3.0
subaru forester awd xt



let me know what you think .... iv been looking for 2 months lots of sh£$% out there at the momment .....

EddScott

What is it going to be used for?

I know your looking at more expensive 4X4s but Jeeps are worth a look IMO. I've had a couple of old cherokees and they've been 100% reliable.

Petrol ones are thirsty but they take LPG well.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Landcruiser/Pajaro is a good bet you can also look at the 3.1/3.0TD Isuzu Troopers, not heard anything really bad about those, seem to go on for years though would avoid landrover/rangerover if you want reliability, how much I like them they are not the most reliable of vehicle

Example here>>> http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2590080.htm


Tony

EH52WRX

iTrader: (16)

Nissan pathfinder/navara. Stay away from isuzu troopers with their engine problems.

richs2891

All depends on what using it for, but would add shogun to that list and also Hyundai Terracan (shogun chassis & merc diesel engine). Would personally stay away from the green oval products far too overpriced and v mixed relability.
Richard

GROWLER_GRRRR

thanks for the replys gents ....

The vehicle in question will be used just 5 to 8k a year as i commute every day on a bike .

the use will be winter commuting (transit vans dont like snow )
pulling a boat about 20 mile .... twice a month realy light duties realy .

i would also consider a forester xt as iv had subarus before and know if you
look aftem them they do they same to you .

Keep the comments coming .... Thanks a lot .

hodgy0_2

when the most demanding customers in the world insist on reliability, when reliability is a matter of life and death -- they choose Toyota

austinwrx

friend had 280K out of his shogun. slow thing though.

ScoobyWon't

You want a Defender

Matteeboy

If you're willing to compromise and look after it then yes. If not then no!

Made a handy rack in the 110 this weekend - roofrack straps tied around the grab handle so can store two boards in the roof. Ideal!

ScoobyWon't

Next...

Matteeboy

We have a 110 Defender. It's great.

ScoobyWon't

My dad does. It's recently had a new chassis as a treat for it's 25th birthday

Matteeboy

This ours taken with a cack phone camera! 57 reg XS TDCi model.

What's your dad got?

ScoobyWon't

It's a 1986 Defender 110 in Cambrian grey. It's been modified to take the 2.5 TDi and power steering. There have been a few other bits and bobs done to it. He'd like to give it a full respray but the local chavs like scratching the motors on his street. I did suggest putting motion activated cameras on the roof rack to see who is going passed it.

rangi-t

toyota landcruiser, nearly bulletproof. scooby foggie running one at min runs like sewing machine goes like rocket

ScooByer Trade

80 series Landcruiser 4.2td ( 90's era ) you won't regret it & my dad owns one plus it's replacement the 100 series.

hodgy0_2

i have been banging on about the Landcruisers to anyone unfortunate to listen for the last 5 years or so

Had a 80 series that replaced my lovely RR LSE for a few years -- now have the 100 series -- immense cars, will easily do 500k

(the only downside is if you pull into a persons drive, they think you are gonna ask of they want it tarmac'd)

SHUGSTERC

i got a pajero for a grand 2 years ago..no rust sailed its mot huge sunroof for the kids to spit out of plenty room digital heatin and the bad snow never botheres it..went through a road closed sign to take the rugrats sledgin and the snow never bothered it..put oil in it one day

ScooByer Trade

If you want agricultural go for a 40 series Landcruiser BJ diesel ( BJ43 ).Slow but will do a million miles, if you can stand the ride quality.Don't bother with Jeeps, they are cheap and a bit naf tbh.70 series Landcruiser ( HJ74 ) import with non turbo 4.2d engine or BJ74 series with 13 bt 3.4td engine is a cracking 4x4 in swb form.

Just to show you what a BJ74 is:
http://www.toyotadiesel.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1583

RA Dunk

Not getting what you mean about landcruisers, do you mean you rate them or don't rate them?

I had a wee search through Pistonheads today at Landcruisers and was surprised what 6-7K could buy!

ScooByer Trade

The L/C's on Pistonheads are very expensive.12k+ for a basic 95/96 GS ridiculous.Around 8.5k - 9k yeah.

RA Dunk

You must be searching through the 'upmarket' section of Piston heads lol
A few quite decent priced ones.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2577363.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2560432.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2605156.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2599165.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2532805.htm

ScooByer Trade

Oh you are looking at Colarados, i was looking at the bigger 80 series.That last colarado is low mileage isn't it ?.

RA Dunk

Ahhh, just looked at the prices of the 80's series they are a fair bit more expensive TBH, whats the difference between the two then?

RA Dunk

Yea, it's suspiciously low lol

ScooByer Trade

It's basically got a hilux engine with two extra pistons.This is what we found out, still a very good engine and gearbox etc.The engines are used in buses in Japan.Plus they have got massive gearboxes.You'd notice instantly if you drive a manual one.Basically a less compromised off roader, compared with the Colorado.

hodgy0_2

Dunk - I really rate them, don't get me wrong I love the RR products

But as no comparison on reliability and durability

In Afirica the RR dealerships use them as reovery vehicles

I have had the 80 and the 100 series - awsome moter, and endorsed by the (aliban

RA Dunk

So is the Hilux the better of the two then, I'm going to be looking for a fairly cheap tow car soon I'm trying to narrow down my options, was thinking about a 2800 Shogun as well.

Cheers Hodgy, what do you mean RR though, I was thinking Range Rover but it dosent make much sense llol

ScooByer Trade

I would say no, has more torque & inline 6 so is smoother.You are better off driving one to see how they drive.Wouldn't bother with the Shogun/Pajero either.