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Old 20 December 2010, 12:35 PM
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As a former Scooby owner I used to run my scoob 95% of the time on shell V power, now I have a 530d. My question is do you put shell V power in your deisel, Are the pros same as petrol.

Does your OBC state you get more mpg as shell claim it does on petrol, can you feel any differance in running V power. Or is this just going to waste money every fill up.

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Old 20 December 2010, 12:43 PM
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I used normal diesel.

My car runs fine. I'm not at all convinced about the claims for "super" diesel.
Old 20 December 2010, 01:07 PM
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I use VPower diesel - my wife filled it up with supermarket diesel without my knowing and I thought it was broken
Old 20 December 2010, 01:15 PM
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Normal diesel. Dont think its going to make any discernable performance difference. But once in a few months putting a tank full in can apparently help clean the injectors from what Iv read!! Sounds like marketing tosh to me!
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Looks like best part of £100 to fill this week then, will try 2 tanks to see if oat happens.
Old 20 December 2010, 03:11 PM
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City diesel all the way
Old 20 December 2010, 03:24 PM
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we have tried city diesel on our newish 2151cc Mercedes Sprinter which has a pretty modern engine (same as the one on cars AFAIK) and it made not one jot of difference on mpg or drive-ability.

We also tried the BP one, nothing changed!
Old 20 December 2010, 03:24 PM
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I've only used standard diesel in my E92 . . . will have to experiment . . . when I can get if off of the drive
Old 20 December 2010, 03:46 PM
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Just been reading shell web site, claims to clean and protect. Also said that they do not claim any increase in mpg.

Thing is as it holds 70 litres so to use two full takes will take a month, unlike the late scoob two weeks max.

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Old 20 December 2010, 06:09 PM
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Sounds like bollocks to me. It's a diesel not a high performance engine
Old 20 December 2010, 06:16 PM
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F1 - but but but...

ahh forget it ;-)
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
F1 - but but but...

ahh forget it ;-)
I'm only teasin' ya
Old 20 December 2010, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I'm only teasin' ya
I know

My other diesel is comically low performance too. Good in snow though
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sounds like bollocks to me. It's a diesel not a high performance engine
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...d-vs-vxr8.html

it's a performance diesel with lots of torques
Old 20 December 2010, 06:33 PM
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"Performance" and "diesel" in the same sentence still confuses me, despite owning what most would label mine as one!
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What a load of cods wallop!
Put normal diesel in and feel happy that you've saved yourself some money.
I've tried this performannce stuff for a week, running a mini cooper d, and it made no difference to the car, just made my wallet a bit lighter.
Old 21 December 2010, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rookymatt
What a load of cods wallop!
Put normal diesel in and feel happy that you've saved yourself some money.
I've tried this performannce stuff for a week, running a mini cooper d, and it made no difference to the car, just made my wallet a bit lighter.
Yeah but to be fair the diesel in the Mini is a bit... well ordinary is a polite way of putting it whereas these big BMW diesels are quite sophisticated and may well see a benefit from the more advanced fuel.
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F1 - Matt is a BMW technician/engineer though...
Old 21 December 2010, 09:54 AM
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All they do is add Acetone in the super diesel which u can do yourself if you wanted.
Old 21 December 2010, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
F1 - Matt is a BMW technician/engineer though...
Your point being?
Old 21 December 2010, 10:41 AM
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He is likely to know whether expensive diesel is worth having for high end diesels as well as base models. More than you or I.
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The new mini D is actually pretty advanced. It has new generation injectors, runs a high pressure common rail system with a particulate filter to reduce sooting. Which i thought i'd mention, also has an additive bag in tank to reduce carbon deposits and aid in the burning off of any soot that is produced. Granted it's not as up there as the current BMW dervs but is still very advanced.
Not only that, but we don't sell our 335d/535d with a label on the fuel flap saying "super diesel only"
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Originally Posted by rookymatt
The new mini D is actually pretty advanced. It has new generation injectors, runs a high pressure common rail system with a particulate filter to reduce sooting. Which i thought i'd mention, also has an additive bag in tank to reduce carbon deposits and aid in the burning off of any soot that is produced. Granted it's not as up there as the current BMW dervs but is still very advanced.
Not only that, but we don't sell our 335d/535d with a label on the fuel flap saying "super diesel only"
It wasn't a dig at the Mini, but a car costing less than half as much as the expensive BMW diesels is bound to have a less sophisticated engine.

I was simpy opining that maybe the bigger BMW engines may see some benefit from the advanced fuel. Just a thought and nothing more.
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No, i'm not having a dig. Just saying that it is advanced enough to make a benefit of the fuel if there was a benefit to be had
Old 21 December 2010, 01:42 PM
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My boss has a Volvo D5 and his mechanic swears by Shell V Power Diesel. He rekons there is so much less wear and tear to the engine upon any strip downs he has done.

If I had a 200bhp+ diesel I would deffo be putting the stuff in.
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Wear and tear?? He strips down the fuel injectors and high pressure fuel pump??
Or strips the engine apart all the time?? why??
The only bearing i can see where he is coming from, is that there might be less deposits in the oil when it is removed. However the job of protecting engine internals is down to the engine oil, not the diesel fuel.
each to his own i suppose.
Not flinging mud at anyone here, but untill i can see some hard and verified evidence of the fuel being better, i'll happily sit in the "budget" side of diesel purchases thanks
Old 21 December 2010, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rookymatt
Wear and tear?? He strips down the fuel injectors and high pressure fuel pump??
Or strips the engine apart all the time?? why??
The only bearing i can see where he is coming from, is that there might be less deposits in the oil when it is removed. However the job of protecting engine internals is down to the engine oil, not the diesel fuel.
each to his own i suppose.
Not flinging mud at anyone here, but untill i can see some hard and verified evidence of the fuel being better, i'll happily sit in the "budget" side of diesel purchases thanks
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It's just marketing waffle and in some cases, near blackmail. "You want to look after you expensive car don't you? Well you SHOULD use this overpriced fuel then."

Nope - I don't buy it.

All evidence I've seen so far is just through vacuous opinions. No hard facts. Ever.
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I use standard diesel in my E92 330d but always stick in a shot of Millers Diesel Power EcoMax additive.
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Interesting thread.

So what is the actual difference between super diesel and diesel? We all know that SUL does make a difference especially on turbo charged cars. On my Scoobs the car felt way different if I was ever forced to put 95 Ron in it and I've always run my AMG and M5 on SUL.
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Originally Posted by scooby1doo1
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...d-vs-vxr8.html

it's a performance diesel with lots of torques
Not as good as a growler though
tbho the only real advantage to using 'super diesel' is the fact it doesn't have as much of an effect on the clogging up of the inlet manifold and egr valve ie not as much carbon deposits


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