Which marque has never appealed to you?
09 September 2010, 01:09 PM
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Which marque has never appealed to you?
I was thinking the other day that Volkswagen has never made a single production car that has genuinely appealled to me as something to really aspire to. Doesn't mean I haven't owned a few in my time (actually 4 or 5), but there has never been anything in the range that has really got my juices flowing. They're worthy, but dull. Even the LHD-only G60 4WD Golf Rallye was worse than most of its Group A rivals.
At least sister company Audi made the original Quattro and later RS2.
I will, of course, add Skoda to the list.
Anyone got their own opinions on this?
At least sister company Audi made the original Quattro and later RS2.
I will, of course, add Skoda to the list.
Anyone got their own opinions on this?
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09 September 2010, 01:28 PM
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FSOs they are hideous, ugly, slow, boring, unrelible & did i mention as slow as a slug.Most if not all Russian vehicles ( except TVR of course ).
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not even the magnificent VXR Monaro? 
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09 September 2010, 02:13 PM
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I take issue with a few of these:
BMW has produced 3 appealing cars to date:
Pre-war 328, Post-war 507 and 70's M1. Nowt spectacular since though. Even the original E30 M3 was disappointingly slow.
Renault another 3:
R5 Turbo 1 and 2, Renault Sport Spider & Clio V6 Mark 2.
I agree with MattW (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Proton, Lada, FSO, SAAB, Volvo, Reliant), Vauxhall and the American producers. Rover did manage the MG 6R4 and SVR specials. Lamborghini has made one or two decent machines that I can think of too.
BMW has produced 3 appealing cars to date:
Pre-war 328, Post-war 507 and 70's M1. Nowt spectacular since though. Even the original E30 M3 was disappointingly slow.
Renault another 3:
R5 Turbo 1 and 2, Renault Sport Spider & Clio V6 Mark 2.
I agree with MattW (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Proton, Lada, FSO, SAAB, Volvo, Reliant), Vauxhall and the American producers. Rover did manage the MG 6R4 and SVR specials. Lamborghini has made one or two decent machines that I can think of too.
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this may sound bad but porsche, just don't like the look of them for some reason and would buy most other cars before they got a look in.
09 September 2010, 02:18 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined towards the vehicles produced by those Manufacturers with an illustrious Motorsport tradition. I guess they were obliged to design some great cars to have any chance of winning anything! 
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Its very hard to find one manufacturer who hasnt built something decent in their history, I suppose one that hasnt has to be a small company called Moscovich (small russian company that is 
) who have never really built any car that was remotely decent.
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) who have never really built any car that was remotely decent.Tony
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Okay some of the above are decent - R8, RS4, current S4 and IMO the TTRS and current S3 but the rest do nowt for me.
09 September 2010, 03:49 PM
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Vauxhall UK no question. Wouldn't count the 4 door VXR things because they are Australian.
Like Proton. Nothing good ever came from Proton yet in some east asian rally series Mitsubishi EVOs are badged as Protons.
Not keen on anything Mercedes really.
Like Proton. Nothing good ever came from Proton yet in some east asian rally series Mitsubishi EVOs are badged as Protons.
Not keen on anything Mercedes really.
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Holden is apart of GM, vauxhall is apart of GM (well use to be ) now dont forget the VX220 turbo as many people seem to do or the nova GTE (it was a fantastic little car in its day).
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) now dont forget the VX220 turbo as many people seem to do or the nova GTE (it was a fantastic little car in its day).Tony
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Audi do nothing for me at all. Their cars are too synthetic for my taste.
And to criticise an E30 M3, one of the finest cars ever made because it is too slow is to completely and utterly miss the point of the car. Each to their own I guess.
And to criticise an E30 M3, one of the finest cars ever made because it is too slow is to completely and utterly miss the point of the car. Each to their own I guess.
09 September 2010, 07:13 PM
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Gotta say, BMs leave me cold (and I've driven them all pretty much) - I wanted to like em as the M3/M5 etc were on the "list".
Subaru now leave me cold - great when I had one, but grew out of it tbh.
Porsche (sorry Trout)
Ford. meh.
Vauxhall meh.
to name but a few.
Subaru now leave me cold - great when I had one, but grew out of it tbh.
Porsche (sorry Trout)
Ford. meh.
Vauxhall meh.
to name but a few.
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I concur.. with exeption to the Legacy estate, circa 1997.. dropped on its Ar$e, with a decent set of rims on. then and only then, would I possibly ever be enticed into ownership of a Soo-bruu
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09 September 2010, 09:33 PM
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Feel guilty for saying it but third vote for Porsche!Thought I was abnormal
I really try hard but....nope.
I really try hard but....nope.