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Turbo2 09 September 2010 01:09 PM

Which marque has never appealed to you?
 
I was thinking the other day that Volkswagen has never made a single production car that has genuinely appealled to me as something to really aspire to. Doesn't mean I haven't owned a few in my time (actually 4 or 5), but there has never been anything in the range that has really got my juices flowing. They're worthy, but dull. Even the LHD-only G60 4WD Golf Rallye was worse than most of its Group A rivals.

At least sister company Audi made the original Quattro and later RS2.

I will, of course, add Skoda to the list. ;)

Anyone got their own opinions on this?

ScooByer Trade 09 September 2010 01:28 PM

FSOs they are hideous, ugly, slow, boring, unrelible & did i mention as slow as a slug.Most if not all Russian vehicles ( except TVR of course ).

The Trooper 1815 09 September 2010 01:29 PM

Vauxhall.

f1_fan 09 September 2010 01:48 PM

Rover, Renault, Lamborghini

MattW 09 September 2010 01:54 PM

Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Proton, Lada, FSO, SAAB, Volvo, Reliant, to name a few

TonyBurns 09 September 2010 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon (Post 9590949)
Vauxhall.

What?! :eek: not even the magnificent VXR Monaro? ;)

Tony:D

richs2891 09 September 2010 02:02 PM

BMW, Renault, Citroen, pretty much all the american manufators.

Richard

richs2891 09 September 2010 02:02 PM

Double post again !!

Turbo2 09 September 2010 02:13 PM

I take issue with a few of these:

BMW has produced 3 appealing cars to date:

Pre-war 328, Post-war 507 and 70's M1. Nowt spectacular since though. Even the original E30 M3 was disappointingly slow.

Renault another 3:

R5 Turbo 1 and 2, Renault Sport Spider & Clio V6 Mark 2.

I agree with MattW (Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Proton, Lada, FSO, SAAB, Volvo, Reliant), Vauxhall and the American producers. Rover did manage the MG 6R4 and SVR specials. Lamborghini has made one or two decent machines that I can think of too. ;)

belliott69 09 September 2010 02:15 PM

this may sound bad but porsche, just don't like the look of them for some reason and would buy most other cars before they got a look in.

Turbo2 09 September 2010 02:18 PM

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined towards the vehicles produced by those Manufacturers with an illustrious Motorsport tradition. I guess they were obliged to design some great cars to have any chance of winning anything! :thumb:

MattW 09 September 2010 02:23 PM

Vauxhall did make the Astra and Nova GTE which were quite cool cars in the 80s. As for American cars, got to love Eleanor.

Matteeboy 09 September 2010 02:33 PM

FSO, Yugo, Toyota (recently), Alfa (recently), Audi (recently), Seat, anything American, Kia and a fair few others.

SwissTony 09 September 2010 02:39 PM

This one


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Its too vulgar for my tastes :Suspiciou

dpb 09 September 2010 02:53 PM

id never have one of those Maybachs or any of those phat yank executive machines

MattW 09 September 2010 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Matteeboy (Post 9591064)
FSO, Yugo, Toyota (recently), Alfa (recently), Audi (recently), Seat, anything American, Kia and a fair few others.

R8 V8, R8 V10, R8 Spyder, RS6, S6, S8, RS5, S5, S5 Sportback, RS4, S4

Gosh! You have turned into a Beemer fanboy!

TonyBurns 09 September 2010 03:24 PM

Its very hard to find one manufacturer who hasnt built something decent in their history, I suppose one that hasnt has to be a small company called Moscovich (small russian company that is :lol1: ) who have never really built any car that was remotely decent.

Tony:)

Matteeboy 09 September 2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by MattW (Post 9591090)
R8 V8, R8 V10, R8 Spyder, RS6, S6, S8, RS5, S5, S5 Sportback, RS4, S4

Gosh! You have turned into a Beemer fanboy!

Nope - loads of BMs ar4e sh1te too - anything four pot, anything SUV (almost).

Okay some of the above are decent - R8, RS4, current S4 and IMO the TTRS and current S3 but the rest do nowt for me.

EddScott 09 September 2010 03:49 PM

Vauxhall UK no question. Wouldn't count the 4 door VXR things because they are Australian.

Like Proton. Nothing good ever came from Proton yet in some east asian rally series Mitsubishi EVOs are badged as Protons.

Not keen on anything Mercedes really.

TonyBurns 09 September 2010 04:00 PM

Holden is apart of GM, vauxhall is apart of GM (well use to be ;)) now dont forget the VX220 turbo as many people seem to do ;) or the nova GTE (it was a fantastic little car in its day).

Tony:)

mamoon2 09 September 2010 05:08 PM

Subaru - Believe it or not

SimonD 09 September 2010 05:19 PM

Vauxhall........ UK if you like but Holden and Lotus don't really count. If you go down that route you can't say you don't like VWs if you like Lambos or Audi RSs.

Trout 09 September 2010 07:00 PM

Audi do nothing for me at all. Their cars are too synthetic for my taste.

And to criticise an E30 M3, one of the finest cars ever made because it is too slow is to completely and utterly miss the point of the car. Each to their own I guess.

ScoobyDoo555 09 September 2010 07:13 PM

Gotta say, BMs leave me cold (and I've driven them all pretty much) - I wanted to like em as the M3/M5 etc were on the "list".

Subaru now leave me cold - great when I had one, but grew out of it tbh.

Porsche (sorry Trout)
Ford. meh.

Vauxhall meh.

to name but a few.

tony de wonderful 09 September 2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Trout (Post 9591526)
Audi do nothing for me at all. Their cars are too synthetic for my taste.

I cruised with a new RS4 the other day and it sounded sweet.

But I know what you mean.

ScoobyDoo555 09 September 2010 07:21 PM

to be fair - I used to like Audi, but got bored of my S4... so I can see where you're coming from too :)

Trout 09 September 2010 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555 (Post 9591558)
Porsche (sorry Trout)

That's OK - no need to apologise - each to their own :D

Dan Gleebits 09 September 2010 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by mamoon2 (Post 9591300)
Subaru - Believe it or not

I concur.. with exeption to the Legacy estate, circa 1997.. dropped on its Ar$e, with a decent set of rims on. then and only then, would I possibly ever be enticed into ownership of a Soo-bruu
:thumb:

njkmrs 09 September 2010 08:38 PM

Bmw .Im not sure why ,some rave about their engines (petrol or diesel)but I just cannot see the appeal of the cars .

Maybe just not for me .

lozgti1 09 September 2010 09:33 PM

Feel guilty for saying it but third vote for Porsche!Thought I was abnormal

I really try hard but....nope.


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